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SNOWMASS-EF  March 2013

SNOWMASS-EF March 2013

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minutes from today's phone meeting

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"Peskin, Michael E." <[log in to unmask]>

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snowmass-ef Snowmass 2013 Energy Frontier conveners <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:26:26 -0700

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Folks:

Here are some notes from today's phone meeting:


attending:  Brock, Peskin, Luty, Wang, LeCompte, Kotwal, van Kooten, White, Raubenheimer, Prebys, Gerber, Prell, Narain, Padhi, Gritsan, Artuso, Agashe, Hatakeyama, Huston, Papucci, Schwienhorst, Qian, Erbacher, Wackeroth, Campbell

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Action items:   ****

a.  Suggestions of challenges -- see # 4 below

b.  Your responsibilities for the Brookhaven meeting -- #6 below

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0.   The Energy Frontier facilities list is finalized.  It provides a canonical list
       of future accelerators and a suggested luminosity sample for each.  We
         discourage people from exploring the physics for other parameter sets.

1.   We are making progress toward a canonical Snowmass fast-simulation framework for 
         hadron colliders.

         We have agreed on:
              a common Snowmass detector, with, in each element, parameters equal to 
                 the better of ATLAS and CMS
              DELPHES 3
              pileup inclusion as implemented by DELPHES 3
              
            a group including Ashtosh Kotwal, Sergei Chekanov, Mina Narain, and 
                 Sanjay Padhi are finishing this and comparing to ATLAS and CMS
                   simulation results

            We agree that this must be finished to roll out at Brookhaven. 

         LHC background samples are now being generated as LHE events.  They will be 
             run through this framework and the results stored for public download,
               probably at Nebraska.

         Fast simulation frameworks exist for lepton colliders, and background samples
            are also available.

         We need speakers to present this at Brookhaven   40-45 min for hadrons, 
             15-20 minutes for leptons.  Chip and Michael will grap potential 
             speakers for these slots.

2.   We discussed benchmark models.  Studies of reach for particular signatures are 
        best done using simplified models or effective operator formalism.  However, 
          Michael P. was concerned that, to compare across probes and to make 
          contact with other frontiers, we need complete BSM models with precisely 
               specified parameters from which implications can be calculated.

         The NP group has put a number of complete SUSY models on their wiki site.
           Kaustubh A. has created two useful Randall-Sundrum parameter points 
             with heavy resonances, top quark partners, and composite Higgs/ composite
               top phenomenology.  These models should also be completely documented
               on the NP wiki site before Brookhaven.  In general, the set of 
             "canonical" full-model benchmarks should be finalized before Brookhaven.

3.   We quickly reviewed the status of each of the six working groups.

4.   We discussed the "Challenges" exercise that you saw in your email yesterday.
       Chip and Michael put this forward as an exercise to put forward a narrative 
         around possible discoveries in the next 5 years and their implications
         for the longer-term program.

      The reception of this idea was cool.  People were concerned that we were 
        giving too much attention to temporary 2 sigma deviations in the current 
         data.   Markus L. pointed out that the working groups are already 
           considering scenarios like this.   The question is which to use as 
           examples for prominent discussion in our report.

       We welcome suggestions from all of you as to what possible anomalies/discoveries
           should be singled out for extended, illustrative discussion in our reports.

 ***   Send us your suggestions in the next week.  We will raise this question to 
          larger audience at Brookhaven, but this will start the list.

5.   We discussed "Big Picture" issues for Energy Frontier, particularly in the context
         of the content of the panel discussion that we had scheduled for 
         Thursday afternoon at Brookhaven.   There are many Big Picture issues, and 
           probably we should schedule a separate EF conveners' meeting, after 
          Brookhaven, devoted to talking through those issues in an organized way.

      One question that we kept coming back to, relevant to the panel discussion, was
        the following:  Our goal, as the Energy Frontier conveners, is to articulate
        the physics motivation for energy frontier experiments as strongly and effectively
        as possible, both for presentation to the rest of HEP and to groups outside 
         of HEP.   Yet we are confused about the right strategy and the right points to 
        emphasize. Brookhaven might be a good place to try out our arguments.  In the 
         panel discussion, 6 people can give their best 10 minute discussions, and we can 
         schedule another 30 minutes of critique and contributions from the floor.

       If you are burning to be a speaker in this session, please let us know.

6.    Action items for the next two weeks:

 ****   1.  You are responsible for posting the scheduled talks in your sessions on 
             the Brookhaven agenda page.   For joint meetings of working groups, the 
              first group listed has the responsibility.

 ****   2.  Bring out the troops!  Registration at the Brookhaven meeting is now at 110,
                there is room for more.   Much homework will be given at the meeting,
                so this will be a good opportunity for people to come and get involved.

Thanks,

  Michael 

 

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  Michael E. Peskin                           [log in to unmask]
  HEP Theory Group, MS 81                       -------
  SLAC National Accelerator Lab.        phone: 1-(650)-926-3250
  2575 Sand Hill Road                       fax:     1-(650)-926-2525
  Menlo Park, CA 94025 USA              www.slac.stanford.edu/~mpeskin/
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