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Re: MC has problems

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"McCormick, Jeremy I." <[log in to unmask]>

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Software for the Heavy Photon Search Experiment <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 13 Oct 2015 21:35:39 +0000

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Hi,

I've checked in some changes to SLIC trunk which should fix the issues with the beam-tri jobs crashing.  

The JLAB copy should have the fix in it now.

/group/hps/hps_soft/slic/HEAD/

I did some checks on a few of the sample StdHep files you sent me, and I also spot checked a few merged events (beam/tri/Aprime) at SLAC.

I can confirm now that the gen status 0 particles are skipped, and also the displaced vertices are put in the right place by Geant now.  The verbose tracking output shows that the Z = 0.1 mm particles which occur in some of the merged events look correct now.

Can you run some of the beam-tri events at JLAB through this new SLIC version, so Sho and others can check the LCIO output?  I don't think we need many events to confirm it is working and looks correct, maybe just around 10k.

Thanks.

--Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: Sho Uemura [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:15 AM
To: Bradley T Yale
Cc: Graham, Mathew Thomas; McCormick, Jeremy I.; Omar Moreno; Graf, Norman A.; Solt, Matthew Reagan
Subject: Re: MC has problems

Can you run more tritrig-beam-tri - I think 5000 files would be ideal. 
Either v3 or v3-fieldmap is fine, and this is not urgent. Thanks.

On Tue, 6 Oct 2015, Sho Uemura wrote:

> Looking at the files. I'll let you know if I want more.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2015, Bradley T Yale wrote:
>
>> 500 tritrig-beam-tri are now in there.
>> This is kind of what I was going for; just let me know if any 
>> statistics are too low for a study and I'll make more.
>> I think all the SLIC problems are solved now, so I can start making 
>> fieldmap samples to look at.
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Sho Uemura <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 3:36 PM
>> To: Bradley T Yale
>> Cc: Graham, Mathew Thomas; McCormick, Jeremy I.; Omar Moreno; Graf, 
>> Norman A.; Solt, Matthew Reagan
>> Subject: Re: MC has problems
>> 
>> Yeah, that's fine. I don't care about the fieldmap.
>> 
>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2015, Bradley T Yale wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm trying to figure out an issue with running SLIC at Jlab with the 
>>> new version /u/group/hps/hps_soft/slic/HEAD
>>> 
>>> based on
>>> unable to connect socket for URL
>>> 'http://www.lcsim.org/schemas/gdml/1.0/gdml.xsd'
>>> when it used to work before.
>>> 
>>> It could be tied to a difference in the old 
>>> /u/group/hps/hps_soft/slic/v00-02/init_ilcsoft.csh
>>> and new
>>> /u/group/hps/hps_soft/slic/HEAD/init_ilcsoft.sh
>>> but if anyone can help with that, it's a very important issue to fix ASAP.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, I can make all the tritrig-beam-tri that you need 
>>> without the fieldmap and the previous version of SLIC.
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Sho Uemura <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 3:27 PM
>>> To: Graham, Mathew Thomas
>>> Cc: Bradley T Yale; Omar Moreno; Graf, Norman A.; Solt, Matthew 
>>> Reagan
>>> Subject: Re: MC has problems
>>> 
>>> How much tritrig-beam-tri is in the pipeline?
>>> 
>>> I would like to have a factor of 50 more than the 9 recon files that 
>>> currently exist. I think we need to compare vertex tails between 
>>> data and MC for this readiness document thing, so the sooner the 
>>> better - if what I'm asking for is too much to get done quickly, let 
>>> me know what you think is doable in a week.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Graham, Mathew Thomas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I want tritrig more than tritrig-beam-tri.  I actually wanted 
>>>> to put the beam-tri generation at the end because I think that 
>>>> takes the longest?not sure how true that is (Brad?).
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Sho Uemura <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Agree.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I want tritrig-beam-tri more than I want tritrig.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Graham, Mathew Thomas wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok?I think we need to trash the pass2 MC using the field map 
>>>>>> until we can figure out what?s wrong with slic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, I do think we need some samples ASAP, so I think we 
>>>>>> should use the v3 geometry sans fieldmap 
>>>>>> (HPS-EngRun2015-Nominal-v3) for a few limited samples?how?s this 
>>>>>> for a priority list?  At some point we?ll fix the fieldmap problem and then we can stop and go back:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.  Moller
>>>>>> 2.  tritrig
>>>>>> 3.  RAD
>>>>>> 4.  BH
>>>>>> 5.  ap
>>>>>> 6.  beam-tri
>>>>>> 7.  tritrig-beam-tri
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do people object?  I?ll post this to the analysis list as well if 
>>>>>> you folks agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Omar Moreno 
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mollers look bad as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2015 11:20 AM, "Graham, Mathew Thomas" 
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone know if this is the case for all pass2 MC files or 
>>>>>> just RAD?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Sho Uemura 
>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looking at the HelicalTrackHits in a pairs1 recon file, it looks 
>>>>>>> like the readout and hit recon is working OK - I see sets of 
>>>>>>> in-time hits - but they seem to be roughly on straight lines. 
>>>>>>> That would explain why omega is small and zero-centered, and 
>>>>>>> chi2 is large because the multiple scattering is being underestimated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hard to reconcile this with what Norman sees using the same 
>>>>>>> detector, and I see no smoking gun in the SLIC logs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2015, Graham, Mathew Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is the command being run:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> slic -i rot_RAD.stdhep -g
>>>>>>>> /u/group/hps/hps_soft/hps/detector-data/detectors/HPS-EngRun201
>>>>>>>> 5-Nominal-v3-fieldmap/HPS-EngRun2015-Nominal-v3-fieldmap.lcdd
>>>>>>>> -o out.slcio -d18{159} -r5000000
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The SLIC log files say that it?s being read:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ***********************
>>>>>>>> --- Warning from G4Material::G4Material() define a material 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> density=0 is not allowed.
>>>>>>>> The material G4_Galactic will be constructed with the default 
>>>>>>>> minimal
>>>>>>>> density: 1e-25g/cm3
>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>    Magnetic field
>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ---> Reading the field grid from
>>>>>>>> fieldmap/125acm2_3kg_corrected_unfolded_scaled_0.7992.dat ...
>>>>>>>> [ Number of values x,y,z: 101 29 601 ]
>>>>>>>> ---> ... done reading
>>>>>>>> Read values of field from file 
>>>>>>>> fieldmap/125acm2_3kg_corrected_unfolded_scaled_0.7992.dat
>>>>>>>> ---> assumed the order:  x, y, z, Bx, By, Bz Min values x,y,z: 
>>>>>>>> ---> -250 -70 -1500 cm Max values x,y,z: 250 70 1500 cm The 
>>>>>>>> ---> field will be offset by 457.2 0 0 cm
>>>>>>>> After reordering if necessary
>>>>>>>> ---> Min values x,y,z: -250 -70 -1500 cm Max values x,y,z: 250 
>>>>>>>> ---> 70 1500 cm Range of values x,y,z: 500 140 3000 cm in z
>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Graf, Norman A. 
>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yup. It's always upside down. Or flipped. Or you're looking 
>>>>>>>>> upstream instead of downstream. Or something else...
>>>>>>>>> But thanks for double-checking.
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Sho Uemura
>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:11 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Graf, Norman A.
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Omar Moreno; Graham, Mathew Thomas; Bradley Yale; Solt, 
>>>>>>>>> Matthew Reagan
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: MC has problems
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hang on, I'm not reading that picture correctly - the 
>>>>>>>>> wireframe confused me. The photon hole is at the top and the 
>>>>>>>>> electron slot is on bottom. So the picture looks fine.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Never mind.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2015, Sho Uemura wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like field is flipped then.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> When the photon beam passes through the round hole (roughly 
>>>>>>>>>> where your red beam is going), the momentum-smeared electron 
>>>>>>>>>> beam is supposed to pass through the slot (roughly where your 
>>>>>>>>>> green beam is going).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2015, Graf, Norman A. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a screen shot of a 1.056GeV electron in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> HPS-EngRun2015-Nominal-v3-fieldmap
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> detector. The photon (in green) is pretty much along the z 
>>>>>>>>>>> axis, while the electron (red)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> is curving. I'm running some higher statistics and will push 
>>>>>>>>>>> them through the standard
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> reconstruction and let you know what I find.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [cid:66c699a9-d25e-4fad-8feb-2a8e0a13f0c5]
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Omar Moreno
>>>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:12 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Graham, Mathew Thomas
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Bradley Yale; Uemura, Sho; Solt, Matthew Reagan; Graf, 
>>>>>>>>>>> Norman A.
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: MC has problems
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That's what I'm suspecting too.  That's why the Moller's 
>>>>>>>>>>> aren't showing up in the correct position in the Ecal.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Graham, Mathew Thomas 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>> rd.edu>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Omega looks very wrong.  It looks like the B-field may not 
>>>>>>>>>>> be working in SLIC?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Omar Moreno 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:em
>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> These are plots of tracks from the latest radiative only MC. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like all we are seeing is junk tracks and the timing 
>>>>>>>>>>> looks strange.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <Screenshot from 2015-09-28 10:58:02.png><Screenshot from
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-09-28
>>>>>>>>>>> 10:58:07.png>
>>>>>>>>>>> <Screenshot from 2015-09-28 10:57:46.png><Screenshot from
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-09-28
>>>>>>>>>>> 10:55:34.png>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Omar Moreno 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:em
>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Just look at the DST.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Graham, Mathew Thomas 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>> rd.edu>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Plots?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Omar Moreno 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:em
>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bradley, Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I took a closer look at the Moller MC last Friday and it 
>>>>>>>>>>> looks terrible.
>>>>>>>>>>> The time of the SVT tracks is Bimodal and the position of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Ecal clusters looks like they are in the opposite side 
>>>>>>>>>>> of where they are suppose to be.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt S. reported similar issues with the tri-trig(?) MC last 
>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.  Any idea what's going on? I believe Sho is looking 
>>>>>>>>>>> at the SVT timing issues, but maybe this is being caused by 
>>>>>>>>>>> several things.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --Omar Moreno
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>

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