Hello folks, hoping everybody had a nice summer it is time to start up again the vub studies on the recoil (and above all the coordination of the efforts). Currently there are at least 5 groups involved in the game (SLAC/UCSD/Rome/Ferrara/Dresden) and I think we should start clarifying who works on what and with which time scale. My list of things to be done is : * PRD with current analysis with optimized q^2 cut and exclusive measurements * simulatenous mb,a,Vub fit * shape function studies (Ciuchini et al., RothStein et al.) * unfolding of the spectra * CM2 validation It would be nice if people clarified in a meeting their interests and time scale. My first proposal is to meet on friday 8:00am pacific let me know ciao ric