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Hi,

just a short remark concerning the production.
As we mentioned in one of the vub-recoil meetings the mX spectrum
unfolding needs the full signal MC (b->ulnu) samples (this includes events
without a Breco candidate, which were not written out by default in the
signal MC that is currently used by e.g. the mX-q2 analysis).
I do not really know when you will actually be producing signal MC, but
when you do, it will be good if for the b->ulnu signal MC (with generic
other B) all events get written out.

Kerstin



On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Riccardo Faccini wrote:

> Hi Henning,
> the piece of work we underestimated at the time of the statement is that
> we need to rerun the full sequence to get this done. This means that we
> need to implement this missing bit from analysis-20.
>
> We have two alternatives:
> 	a) add the full sequences with a switch in IslBRecoilUser
> 	b) add the MC filtering in 'or' with our stream in SkimApp
>
> I would say that maybe 'b' is cleaner, but none of us has experience in
> this. Since Daniele's skimming has started we can stay with what we have
> for this iteration of MC checks and develop the mising piece of code later
> (but not too late, say in a couple of weeks).
>
> Does this sound ok to everybody?
> 	ciao
>
> 	ric
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Riccardo Faccini
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>
> "I don't understand what you say, but I believe I disagree"
>
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Henning Ulrik Flaecher wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Ric,
> >
> > I would still like to have all the true bsg decays written out in the
> > cocktail. As far as I can see it, this is the most straightforward way to
> > study photon efficiencies as a function of energy and correct for possible
> > biases in a _consistent framework_, without having to start some
> > patchworking. I think we learned from the hadr. mass moment analysis that
> > this needs to be done.
> > From an earlier email I remember that 'filtering on the truth block
> > requires little more work but is technically feasible'.
> >
> > I realise that it takes longer to run over all cocktail events as the
> > Breco candidate needs to be reconstructed but suppose that that was also
> > the case in the summer 2002 production.
> > Then, it took me (alone) 1 or 2 days to run over all the available
> > cocktail, ~3.5M events, so this shouldn't delay the production much.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Henning
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Riccardo Faccini wrote:
> >
> > > today we had a meeting to discuss details of the production. It was agreed
> > > that :
> > >  - we will run on CM2 skimmed collections as much as possible and resort
> > > to CM2 unskimmed or CM1 only if stuck.
> > >  - we will start dumping only skimmed events, in any case. I believe all
> > > studies done with 'all signal events' can be done using a combination of
> > > GeneratorsQA and ntuples on skimmed events. Please think of it and
> > > prepare an argument against this statement: running on unskimmed stuff is
> > > extremely painful in CM2 and would also need some code development.
> > >  - here is the production order. Productions are coordinated by Henning
> > > unless otherwise stated
> > > 	* skim cocktail SP5 (Daniele)
> > > 	* run1-3 skimmed
> > > Here finishes what is currently available, the rest should be available
> > > when the above production is over
> > > 	* SP6 generic MC
> > > 	*  run4  (65fb-1) skimmed
> > > 	* SP5 generic MC
> > >
> > > I would say that we should how long it takes to run the first two items
> > > and how much of the rest is available when the first two items are done.
> > >
> > >
> > > - disk space: daniele will partition the available disk while Henning
> > > takes care of cleaning the unneeded material
> > >
> > > 	ciao
> > > 	ric
> >
>