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Hi- I've been waiting to present this material at a meeting but with the build up to ICHEP and ICHEP itself, we haven't been able to meet. So, i may as well just send it around now... We have implemented a partial reco with D* -> D pi0 and D*0 -> D0 pi0 while also making a small improvement to the previous PR of D* -> D0 pi+ I have a webpage with plots, etc here: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/BFROOT/www/Physics/Analysis/AWG/InclusiveSL/vub-nosf/ejhill/partreco/comparison.html The key points are the following: For the pi+, in recoilNtp the selection simply looks for the lowest momentum charge correlated pion. We added one further constraint: that the pion momentum also be below 200 MeV. The result is that the efficiency, s^2/s+b are improved slightly and the distribution of the efficiency vs missing mass cut is flatter for the b2u events. Also, improvement is visible in the B->pi lv mode of the mX distribution. For the selection of D*(0) -> D(0) pi0 we dont have the use of the charge correlation between the pion and leading lepton. Instead we used the opening angle between the 4-vector leading lepton and the pi0. The pi0 with the lowest momentum is taken that passes these cuts: 1. momentum below 200 MeV 2. opening angle with the leading lepton > 2.2 rad 3. neutral multiplicity > 4 I realize that a cut on neutral multiplicity for the selection of the pi0s might raise an eyebrow, so i included before cut / after cut distributions of the neutral multiplicity on the wepage also to demonstrate we are not rejecting much high-multiplicity b->u. If you don't use the neutral multiplicity, the b2u events peak at mm^2=0, and thus the method is useless. Please have a look at the webpage for the results. Cheers, Ed