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Hi Pete,

No problem. As you point out  we already have it. I have no problems
moving to the latest Solaris compiler. I just need to tell the admin
people that it should become the default on the build platforms that I'm
using.

Andy

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Peter Elmer wrote:

>   Hi Andy,
>
>   I think you misunderstood: the proposal is not to drop support for Solaris
> compilers altogether, but to move forward to a more recent one (Studio9). I'm
> not 100% sure, but I think Sun itself is already starting to drop support
> for the older compilers (Workshop6 and Forte7). They were just kept around
> at SLAC to support old BaBar releases which used them. (BaBar, for example,
> has already moved to Studio9 in its latest software release.)
>
>   Does that clarify the proposal?
>
>   [How much I hate Sun for these continual name games with their
> products...]
>
>                                    Pete
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 04:52:21AM -0700, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote:
> > Hi Pete,
> >
> > No, I think it would be wrong to disallow using the Forte compiler. In
> > general, that compiler picks up errors that other compilers do not and
> > produces better code on Solaris/Sparc. Additionally, it provides me with a
> > good dbx-able debug version that I don't get from gcc. In general, it
> > would be a royal pain for me if I could not use that compiler. Since
> > autotolls does work with that cmpiler for other packages (I have used
> > packages that use autotools and the Solaris compiler), I don't immediately
> > see what the problem is and, whatever it is, why it can't be circumvented.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Peter Elmer wrote:
> >
> > >   Hi All,
> > >
> > >   Derek and I talked on Friday about the migration to autotools. The main
> > > outstanding issue (with libtool) would be solved by dropping support
> > > for building xrootd with Workshop6 and Forte7 on Solaris. Is there anybody
> > > out there who builds xrootd themselves with Forte7 on Solaris rather than
> > > using one of the binary downloads?
> > >
> > >   [Andy, I see you still have Forte7 as the default compiler on your machine
> > > at SLAC, but I'm guessing that this is just because BaBar constrained
> > > this to be the compiler installation on the Sol9 machines. Is that
> > > correct? (Anybody know which compiler version shipped with Sol9? In any case
> > > the BaBar SRT overrides the default compiler version and actually uses the
> > > Studio9 installation from afs in the latest releases.]
> > >
> > >   I _think_ SLAC and In2p3 were the main sites which had solaris and I
> > > think that both of them use the binary downloads. ROOT appears to
> > > support "CC5.5", which must be XXXX8 (where XXXX8 is whatever name Sun
> > > chose between Forte7 and Studio9, how tedious Sun is...). Derek thought
> > > that there should be no issues with XXXX8, but was going to verify this.
> > >
> > >   This said, if nobody sees any urgent reason to keep support for building
> > > xrootd with Workshop6 and Forte7, I would propose that we will do the following:
> > >
> > >    o Since nobody has reported big problems with xrootd 20050920-0008,
> > >      I can declare that a "production" build (the last one supporting
> > >      Workshop6 and Forte7, effectively) (Wilko?)
> > >
> > >    o Derek and I can do the autotools migration on top of this coming
> > >      week and produce another version completely equivalent (for the
> > >      existing xrootd code, plus an optional module for the authorization
> > >      for Alice) to 20050920-0008 up to the autotools changes (and no Workshop6
> > >      or Forte7 support). This would also be the starting point for the next
> > >      round of development.
> > >
> > >   Comments?
> > >
> > >                                  thanks,
> > >                                    Pete
> > >
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> > > Peter Elmer     E-mail: [log in to unmask]      Phone: +41 (22) 767-4644
> > > Address: CERN Division PPE, Bat. 32 2C-14, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland
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> Peter Elmer     E-mail: [log in to unmask]      Phone: +41 (22) 767-4644
> Address: CERN Division PPE, Bat. 32 2C-14, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland
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