Hi Catalin,
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:27:23PM +0200, Catalin Cirstoiu wrote:
> Since I've already done a few things towards getting xrootd server
> monitoring data into MonALISA, I'm looking forward towards this.
>
> Unfortunately I will be unavailable the whole next week (I have an exam
> at my university), but I would suggest to have this meeting next
> Tuesday, for example, if it's possible for you too.
Do you mean that we should go ahead w/o you on Tuesday, 11 Oct or
wait until Tuesday, 18 Oct so you can participate? It is fine with
me if we try to do it on 18 Oct. (Better if you are there...)
Pete
> Peter Elmer wrote:
> > Hi Derek and Catalin,
> >
> >On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:38:36PM +0200, Derek Feichtinger wrote:
> >
> >>You are right. Let's do it like this: We leave this completely out for
> >>now.
> >>I will generate a patch to xrdcp which will be used in the Alice builds.
> >>
> >>After talking to Catalin I can see now that the code is not in a state
> >>that it should be added to the common CVS anyhow (I had suspected a bit,
> >>an that's why I did not ask for inclusion of the #ifdefs in the present
> >>xrdcp). Catalin will get in contact with you again whether it is possible
> >>to get all the information he collects via the client extension also via
> >>the server based monitoring (added Catalin in CC).
> >>If it turns out that there is interest in this functionality, we can
> >>still make it a configure option.
> >
> >
> > I think having the possibility of sending xrootd information to MonALISA
> >is something we want.
> >
> > I also agree that we should have a "what we want from this" discussion
> >independent of the implementations, hopefully with Jacek/Tofigh
> >participating, too, since they worked on the server side monitoring.
> >Perhaps
> >we could try to have a short dedicated phone conversation next week? Would
> >you and Catalin be able to call into the normal xrootd meeting? (19:15
> >CERN time on Tuesday)
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> >>On Thursday 06 October 2005 13.45, Peter Elmer wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Fabrizio and Derek,
> >>>
> >>> I'm also not fond of the idea of a separate executable as in any case
> >>>then we are at the mercy of people using the correct one from any given
> >>>installation of xrootd. It would be somewhat cleaner if people always
> >>>just used 'xrd', whereever they are, and _if_ the command was linked
> >>>with MonaLisa monitoring support it uses it. I guess there is then the
> >>>question of how it knows whether and where to send the information (if
> >>>the
> >>>support is linked). How would that have worked with the 'xrdmoncp'
> >>>command?
> >>>
> >>> BTW, I'm still not sure what the _client_ side support for MonALISA
> >>>gives us that that the server side support would not (e.g. by reusing
> >>>the existing monitoring and simply allowing it to be redirected to
> >>>MonaLISA). Could you spell this out for me, Derek?
> >>>
> >>> Pete
> >>>
> >>>On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:35:38PM +0200, Fabrizio Furano wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Derek,
> >>>>
> >>>>generally I don't like "special" executable targets. However, I have no
> >>>>objections if the idea is to move to a unique way when those libraries
> >>>>are available.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I am out from the boring stuff I am on (very soon I hope) I will
> >>>>start with the developing of some new features. Obviously I'll not
> >>>>replicate modifications onto different code branches...
> >>>>
> >>>>Fabrizio
> >>>>
> >>>>On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 16:29 +0200, Derek Feichtinger wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Ciao, Fabrizio
> >>>>>
> >>>>>We are using here a xrdcp with some added code for MonALISA monitoring
> >>>>>of the clients. It's just the normal client with quite some stuff in
> >>>>>between #ifdefs and it links against a MonALISA client library
> >>>>>(libapmoncpp). The library is unluckily snot yet available on the main
> >>>>>site (no official download page for that version yet. Catalin said he
> >>>>>will include all the necessary changes in the official MonALISA soon).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>For these reasons I would like to include it for now as a separate
> >>>>>second client called xrdmoncp in the XrdClients directory, that will
> >>>>>only be built when autotools detect the presence of the libapmoncpp
> >>>>>library. This way it's easy for users to detect whether a copy command
> >>>>>with MonALISA monitoring is available.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Is this ok for you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Any others interested in this monitoring possibility?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>Derek
> >>>
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> >
> >
> >
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