Hi Peter, I was refering to the next Tuesday after this week (18 Oct). I would like to be there also. Cheers, Catalin. Peter Elmer wrote: > Hi Catalin, > > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:27:23PM +0200, Catalin Cirstoiu wrote: > >>Since I've already done a few things towards getting xrootd server >>monitoring data into MonALISA, I'm looking forward towards this. >> >>Unfortunately I will be unavailable the whole next week (I have an exam >>at my university), but I would suggest to have this meeting next >>Tuesday, for example, if it's possible for you too. > > > Do you mean that we should go ahead w/o you on Tuesday, 11 Oct or > wait until Tuesday, 18 Oct so you can participate? It is fine with > me if we try to do it on 18 Oct. (Better if you are there...) > > Pete > > >>Peter Elmer wrote: >> >>> Hi Derek and Catalin, >>> >>>On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:38:36PM +0200, Derek Feichtinger wrote: >>> >>> >>>>You are right. Let's do it like this: We leave this completely out for >>>>now. >>>>I will generate a patch to xrdcp which will be used in the Alice builds. >>>> >>>>After talking to Catalin I can see now that the code is not in a state >>>>that it should be added to the common CVS anyhow (I had suspected a bit, >>>>an that's why I did not ask for inclusion of the #ifdefs in the present >>>>xrdcp). Catalin will get in contact with you again whether it is possible >>>>to get all the information he collects via the client extension also via >>>>the server based monitoring (added Catalin in CC). >>>>If it turns out that there is interest in this functionality, we can >>>>still make it a configure option. >>> >>> >>> I think having the possibility of sending xrootd information to MonALISA >>>is something we want. >>> >>> I also agree that we should have a "what we want from this" discussion >>>independent of the implementations, hopefully with Jacek/Tofigh >>>participating, too, since they worked on the server side monitoring. >>>Perhaps >>>we could try to have a short dedicated phone conversation next week? Would >>>you and Catalin be able to call into the normal xrootd meeting? (19:15 >>>CERN time on Tuesday) >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> >>> >>>>On Thursday 06 October 2005 13.45, Peter Elmer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Fabrizio and Derek, >>>>> >>>>>I'm also not fond of the idea of a separate executable as in any case >>>>>then we are at the mercy of people using the correct one from any given >>>>>installation of xrootd. It would be somewhat cleaner if people always >>>>>just used 'xrd', whereever they are, and _if_ the command was linked >>>>>with MonaLisa monitoring support it uses it. I guess there is then the >>>>>question of how it knows whether and where to send the information (if >>>>>the >>>>>support is linked). How would that have worked with the 'xrdmoncp' >>>>>command? >>>>> >>>>>BTW, I'm still not sure what the _client_ side support for MonALISA >>>>>gives us that that the server side support would not (e.g. by reusing >>>>>the existing monitoring and simply allowing it to be redirected to >>>>>MonaLISA). Could you spell this out for me, Derek? >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:35:38PM +0200, Fabrizio Furano wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Derek, >>>>>> >>>>>>generally I don't like "special" executable targets. However, I have no >>>>>>objections if the idea is to move to a unique way when those libraries >>>>>>are available. >>>>>> >>>>>>When I am out from the boring stuff I am on (very soon I hope) I will >>>>>>start with the developing of some new features. Obviously I'll not >>>>>>replicate modifications onto different code branches... >>>>>> >>>>>>Fabrizio >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 16:29 +0200, Derek Feichtinger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Ciao, Fabrizio >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We are using here a xrdcp with some added code for MonALISA monitoring >>>>>>>of the clients. It's just the normal client with quite some stuff in >>>>>>>between #ifdefs and it links against a MonALISA client library >>>>>>>(libapmoncpp). The library is unluckily snot yet available on the main >>>>>>>site (no official download page for that version yet. Catalin said he >>>>>>>will include all the necessary changes in the official MonALISA soon). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>For these reasons I would like to include it for now as a separate >>>>>>>second client called xrdmoncp in the XrdClients directory, that will >>>>>>>only be built when autotools detect the presence of the libapmoncpp >>>>>>>library. This way it's easy for users to detect whether a copy command >>>>>>>with MonALISA monitoring is available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Is this ok for you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Any others interested in this monitoring possibility? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>Derek >>>>> >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>Peter Elmer E-mail: [log in to unmask] Phone: +41 (22) 767-4644 >>>>>Address: CERN Division PPE, Bat. 32 2C-14, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland >>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Dr. Derek Feichtinger Tel: +41 22 767 10 07 >>>>ARDA project email: [log in to unmask] >>>>CERN >>>>http://people.web.psi.ch/feichtinger >>>>CH-1211 Genève 23 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Peter Elmer E-mail: [log in to unmask] Phone: +41 (22) 767-4644 >>>Address: CERN Division PPE, Bat. 32 2C-14, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Elmer E-mail: [log in to unmask] Phone: +41 (22) 767-4644 > Address: CERN Division PPE, Bat. 32 2C-14, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland > -------------------------------------------------------------------------