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Hi Peter, Since I've already done a few things towards getting xrootd server monitoring data into MonALISA, I'm looking forward towards this. Unfortunately I will be unavailable the whole next week (I have an exam at my university), but I would suggest to have this meeting next Tuesday, for example, if it's possible for you too. Cheers, Catalin. Peter Elmer wrote: > Hi Derek and Catalin, > > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:38:36PM +0200, Derek Feichtinger wrote: > >>You are right. Let's do it like this: We leave this completely out for now. >>I will generate a patch to xrdcp which will be used in the Alice builds. >> >>After talking to Catalin I can see now that the code is not in a state that it >>should be added to the common CVS anyhow (I had suspected a bit, an that's >>why I did not ask for inclusion of the #ifdefs in the present xrdcp). Catalin >>will get in contact with you again whether it is possible to get all the >>information he collects via the client extension also via the server based >>monitoring (added Catalin in CC). >>If it turns out that there is interest in this functionality, we can still >>make it a configure option. > > > I think having the possibility of sending xrootd information to MonALISA > is something we want. > > I also agree that we should have a "what we want from this" discussion > independent of the implementations, hopefully with Jacek/Tofigh > participating, too, since they worked on the server side monitoring. Perhaps > we could try to have a short dedicated phone conversation next week? Would > you and Catalin be able to call into the normal xrootd meeting? (19:15 > CERN time on Tuesday) > > Pete > > >>On Thursday 06 October 2005 13.45, Peter Elmer wrote: >> >>> Hi Fabrizio and Derek, >>> >>> I'm also not fond of the idea of a separate executable as in any case >>>then we are at the mercy of people using the correct one from any given >>>installation of xrootd. It would be somewhat cleaner if people always >>>just used 'xrd', whereever they are, and _if_ the command was linked >>>with MonaLisa monitoring support it uses it. I guess there is then the >>>question of how it knows whether and where to send the information (if the >>>support is linked). How would that have worked with the 'xrdmoncp' command? >>> >>> BTW, I'm still not sure what the _client_ side support for MonALISA >>>gives us that that the server side support would not (e.g. by reusing >>>the existing monitoring and simply allowing it to be redirected to >>>MonaLISA). Could you spell this out for me, Derek? >>> >>> Pete >>> >>>On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:35:38PM +0200, Fabrizio Furano wrote: >>> >>>>Hi Derek, >>>> >>>> generally I don't like "special" executable targets. However, I have no >>>>objections if the idea is to move to a unique way when those libraries >>>>are available. >>>> >>>> When I am out from the boring stuff I am on (very soon I hope) I will >>>>start with the developing of some new features. Obviously I'll not >>>>replicate modifications onto different code branches... >>>> >>>>Fabrizio >>>> >>>>On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 16:29 +0200, Derek Feichtinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>Ciao, Fabrizio >>>>> >>>>>We are using here a xrdcp with some added code for MonALISA monitoring >>>>>of the clients. It's just the normal client with quite some stuff in >>>>>between #ifdefs and it links against a MonALISA client library >>>>>(libapmoncpp). The library is unluckily snot yet available on the main >>>>>site (no official download page for that version yet. Catalin said he >>>>>will include all the necessary changes in the official MonALISA soon). >>>>> >>>>>For these reasons I would like to include it for now as a separate >>>>>second client called xrdmoncp in the XrdClients directory, that will >>>>>only be built when autotools detect the presence of the libapmoncpp >>>>>library. This way it's easy for users to detect whether a copy command >>>>>with MonALISA monitoring is available. >>>>> >>>>>Is this ok for you? >>>>> >>>>>Any others interested in this monitoring possibility? >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>>Derek >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Peter Elmer E-mail: [log in to unmask] Phone: +41 (22) 767-4644 >>>Address: CERN Division PPE, Bat. 32 2C-14, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>-- >>Dr. Derek Feichtinger Tel: +41 22 767 10 07 >>ARDA project email: [log in to unmask] >>CERN http://people.web.psi.ch/feichtinger >>CH-1211 Genève 23 >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Elmer E-mail: [log in to unmask] Phone: +41 (22) 767-4644 > Address: CERN Division PPE, Bat. 32 2C-14, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland > -------------------------------------------------------------------------