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Hi Heiko,

	that's fine with me.

Cheers,

	Wolfgang

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Heiko Lacker wrote:

> Hi Wolfgang,
>
> to get the unfolding publication out for summer is possible if we can
> hold the timeline also for the BF result but it is not guaranteed that
> we will exactly meet the conference timeline for a publication for the
> unfolding.
> As a consequence, I would vote for a combined abstract which allows us
> to add also the unfolding result if ready for the summer conferences.
>
> If the vague formulation proposed by Kerstin is sufficient is a good
> question. Maybe we could write the following:
>
> > > > Charmless semileptonic decays, B -> X_u l nu, are studied
> > > > in a sample of 232 million B Bbar decays recorded with the
> > > > BaBar detector, in events where the decay of the second
> > > > B meson is fully reconstructed.
> Distributions of various kinematic variables characterising
> B -> X_u l nu decays are studied. Partial branching fractions
> DeltaB(B -> X_u l nu) are measured in kinematic regions where
> the dominant background from semileptonic B decays to charm is
> reduced.
> > > > The CKM matrix element |V_{ub}| is extracted by using
> > > > theoretical calculations of phase space acceptances.
> > > > Theoretical uncertainties in this extrapolation are
> > > > reduced by using the inclusive b -> s gamma photon
> > > > spectrum
> and spectral moments from semileptonic B decays.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Heiko
>
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Wolfgang Menges wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Kerstin,
> >
> > 	do you think this is enough? From the list, Marcello was sending
> > around earlier this week, I have the impression that they expect a full
> > abstract for the unfolding. Any comments? We can try it anyway.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > 	Wolfgang
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Kerstin Tackmann wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Heiko,
> > >
> > > can we make the abstract a little bit (even) more vague,
> > > so that there is a little hint for the unfolding in there,
> > > without anyone noticing if it does not get in in the
> > > end? See below...
> > >
> > > > our aim is to have the Vub-Partial BF analysis ready as a
> > > > publication for the summer conferences.
> > > > For the summer conferences we need to provide an abstract
> > > > by 10th of April. Here is a first version (a modified version
> > > > of what has been submitted last time):
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Charmless semileptonic decays, B -> X_u l nu, are studied
> > > > in a sample of 232 million B Bbar decays recorded with the
> > > > BaBar detector, in events where the decay of the second
> > > > B meson is fully reconstructed. Inclusive charmless decays
> > > > are selected in kinematic regions where the dominant
> > > > background from semileptonic B decays to charm is reduced
> > > > by requirements on various kinematic variables from which
> > > > the partial branching fraction DeltaB(B -> X_u l nu) is
> > > > measured.
> > > > The CKM matrix element |V_{ub}| is extracted by using
> > > > theoretical calculations of phase space acceptances.
> > > > Theoretical uncertainties in this extrapolation are
> > > > reduced by using the inclusive b -> s gamma photon
> > > > spectrum
> > >
> > > Maybe similarly to last summer, we could replace
> > >
> > > > and moments of the b -> c l nu lepton energy
> > > > and hadronic invariant mass.
> > >
> > > and spectral moments from semileptonic B decays.
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Kerstin
> > >
> >
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> > Wolfgang Menges
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