Hi Heiko, that's fine with me. Cheers, Wolfgang On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Heiko Lacker wrote: > Hi Wolfgang, > > to get the unfolding publication out for summer is possible if we can > hold the timeline also for the BF result but it is not guaranteed that > we will exactly meet the conference timeline for a publication for the > unfolding. > As a consequence, I would vote for a combined abstract which allows us > to add also the unfolding result if ready for the summer conferences. > > If the vague formulation proposed by Kerstin is sufficient is a good > question. Maybe we could write the following: > > > > > Charmless semileptonic decays, B -> X_u l nu, are studied > > > > in a sample of 232 million B Bbar decays recorded with the > > > > BaBar detector, in events where the decay of the second > > > > B meson is fully reconstructed. > Distributions of various kinematic variables characterising > B -> X_u l nu decays are studied. Partial branching fractions > DeltaB(B -> X_u l nu) are measured in kinematic regions where > the dominant background from semileptonic B decays to charm is > reduced. > > > > The CKM matrix element |V_{ub}| is extracted by using > > > > theoretical calculations of phase space acceptances. > > > > Theoretical uncertainties in this extrapolation are > > > > reduced by using the inclusive b -> s gamma photon > > > > spectrum > and spectral moments from semileptonic B decays. > > > Cheers, > Heiko > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Wolfgang Menges wrote: > > > > > Hi Kerstin, > > > > do you think this is enough? From the list, Marcello was sending > > around earlier this week, I have the impression that they expect a full > > abstract for the unfolding. Any comments? We can try it anyway. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Wolfgang > > > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Kerstin Tackmann wrote: > > > > > > Hi Heiko, > > > > > > can we make the abstract a little bit (even) more vague, > > > so that there is a little hint for the unfolding in there, > > > without anyone noticing if it does not get in in the > > > end? See below... > > > > > > > our aim is to have the Vub-Partial BF analysis ready as a > > > > publication for the summer conferences. > > > > For the summer conferences we need to provide an abstract > > > > by 10th of April. Here is a first version (a modified version > > > > of what has been submitted last time): > > > > > > > > > > > > Charmless semileptonic decays, B -> X_u l nu, are studied > > > > in a sample of 232 million B Bbar decays recorded with the > > > > BaBar detector, in events where the decay of the second > > > > B meson is fully reconstructed. Inclusive charmless decays > > > > are selected in kinematic regions where the dominant > > > > background from semileptonic B decays to charm is reduced > > > > by requirements on various kinematic variables from which > > > > the partial branching fraction DeltaB(B -> X_u l nu) is > > > > measured. > > > > The CKM matrix element |V_{ub}| is extracted by using > > > > theoretical calculations of phase space acceptances. > > > > Theoretical uncertainties in this extrapolation are > > > > reduced by using the inclusive b -> s gamma photon > > > > spectrum > > > > > > Maybe similarly to last summer, we could replace > > > > > > > and moments of the b -> c l nu lepton energy > > > > and hadronic invariant mass. > > > > > > and spectral moments from semileptonic B decays. > > > > > > ? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Kerstin > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wolfgang Menges > > Queen Mary, University of London SLAC, MS 35 > > Mile End Road 2575 Sand Hill Road > > London, E1 4NS, UK Menlo Park, CA 94025, USA > > ++44 20 7882 3753 ++1 650 926 8503 > > [log in to unmask] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wolfgang Menges Queen Mary, University of London SLAC, MS 35 Mile End Road 2575 Sand Hill Road London, E1 4NS, UK Menlo Park, CA 94025, USA ++44 20 7882 3753 ++1 650 926 8503 [log in to unmask] -----------------------------------------------------------------------------