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Hi Heiko,

I think that modification is a good suggestion.

Kerstin


On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Wolfgang Menges wrote:

>
> Hi Heiko,
>
> 	that's fine with me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> 	Wolfgang
>
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Heiko Lacker wrote:
>
> > Hi Wolfgang,
> >
> > to get the unfolding publication out for summer is possible if we can
> > hold the timeline also for the BF result but it is not guaranteed that
> > we will exactly meet the conference timeline for a publication for the
> > unfolding.
> > As a consequence, I would vote for a combined abstract which allows us
> > to add also the unfolding result if ready for the summer conferences.
> >
> > If the vague formulation proposed by Kerstin is sufficient is a good
> > question. Maybe we could write the following:
> >
> > > > > Charmless semileptonic decays, B -> X_u l nu, are studied
> > > > > in a sample of 232 million B Bbar decays recorded with the
> > > > > BaBar detector, in events where the decay of the second
> > > > > B meson is fully reconstructed.
> > Distributions of various kinematic variables characterising
> > B -> X_u l nu decays are studied. Partial branching fractions
> > DeltaB(B -> X_u l nu) are measured in kinematic regions where
> > the dominant background from semileptonic B decays to charm is
> > reduced.
> > > > > The CKM matrix element |V_{ub}| is extracted by using
> > > > > theoretical calculations of phase space acceptances.
> > > > > Theoretical uncertainties in this extrapolation are
> > > > > reduced by using the inclusive b -> s gamma photon
> > > > > spectrum
> > and spectral moments from semileptonic B decays.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Heiko
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Wolfgang Menges wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Kerstin,
> > >
> > > 	do you think this is enough? From the list, Marcello was sending
> > > around earlier this week, I have the impression that they expect a full
> > > abstract for the unfolding. Any comments? We can try it anyway.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > 	Wolfgang
> > >
> > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Kerstin Tackmann wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Heiko,
> > > >
> > > > can we make the abstract a little bit (even) more vague,
> > > > so that there is a little hint for the unfolding in there,
> > > > without anyone noticing if it does not get in in the
> > > > end? See below...
> > > >
> > > > > our aim is to have the Vub-Partial BF analysis ready as a
> > > > > publication for the summer conferences.
> > > > > For the summer conferences we need to provide an abstract
> > > > > by 10th of April. Here is a first version (a modified version
> > > > > of what has been submitted last time):
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Charmless semileptonic decays, B -> X_u l nu, are studied
> > > > > in a sample of 232 million B Bbar decays recorded with the
> > > > > BaBar detector, in events where the decay of the second
> > > > > B meson is fully reconstructed. Inclusive charmless decays
> > > > > are selected in kinematic regions where the dominant
> > > > > background from semileptonic B decays to charm is reduced
> > > > > by requirements on various kinematic variables from which
> > > > > the partial branching fraction DeltaB(B -> X_u l nu) is
> > > > > measured.
> > > > > The CKM matrix element |V_{ub}| is extracted by using
> > > > > theoretical calculations of phase space acceptances.
> > > > > Theoretical uncertainties in this extrapolation are
> > > > > reduced by using the inclusive b -> s gamma photon
> > > > > spectrum
> > > >
> > > > Maybe similarly to last summer, we could replace
> > > >
> > > > > and moments of the b -> c l nu lepton energy
> > > > > and hadronic invariant mass.
> > > >
> > > > and spectral moments from semileptonic B decays.
> > > >
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Kerstin
> > > >
> > >
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