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I am confused. This *is* the ATLAS/SCCS planning meeting list. Are you saying that the correct forum is not here? The ATLAS/SCCS planning meeting has certainly discussed that a request needed to be made before a web server would be approved for offsite access. That is still true. Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:00 PM > To: Buhrmaster, Gary > Cc: atlas-sccs-planning-l; sec-group > Subject: RE: FW: new pending web servers (fwd) > > Hi Gary, > I don't think this is a good venue for such a discussion. It has > been discussed in the past at the ATLAS SCCS Planning meeting and if > required should be discussed there again. > > regards, > > Stephen. > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote: > > > I think you do not understand my point about the policy. > > Approval must come *before* putting up the server to > > be externally visible (you are free to put up web > > servers that are only visible within SLAC. It is > > when it is externally visible the policy applies). > > Do you disagree with my interpretations of the policy > > statement? > > > > Gary > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:26 AM > > > To: Buhrmaster, Gary > > > Cc: atlas-sccs-planning-l; sec-group > > > Subject: RE: FW: new pending web servers (fwd) > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > The request wasn't rejected to my knowledge and is > > > still listed as > > > PENDing. This service has been discussed extensively at > the ATLAS SCCS > > > Planning meeting. It will be moved to the new machine when I > > > can log in to > > > it (again), which will hopefully be soon. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote: > > > > > > > The yakut one was rejected (as I recall). It is > > > > clearly not acceptable to run a service on a public > > > > machine. In fact if it is running there it is > > > > explicitly violating a policy from (at least 1997(*)) > > > > authored by Les Cottrell and Tony Johnson documented at > > > > http://www.slac.stanford.edu/slac/www/policy/security.html > > > > and should be shutdown. "Getting around" the > > > > policy is clearly possible, but think it is fair > > > > to say that people should conform to the policies > > > > once they are aware of them (even if they do not > > > > like them). > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > (*) That date predates my even really thinking > > > > about SLAC as a potential employer. There > > > > may have been previous drafts before that > > > > date, but I was not here, so do not have > > > > the history available to me at this point. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:26 AM > > > > > To: Buhrmaster, Gary > > > > > Cc: atlas-sccs-planning-l > > > > > Subject: Re: FW: new pending web servers (fwd) > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > It is there as the last on the list; > > > > > > > > > > https://www-internal.slac.stanford.edu/web-server-register/bin > > > > > /list.asp > > > > > > > > > > I don't know of anything they have asked to provide that > > > > > hasn't been, so > > > > > I'm not sure why it wasn't discussed today. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Note that I do not see an Atlas request in this queue > > > > > > (this was an issue from this morning meeting). > > > > > > > > > > > > Requests for approval of new web servers must be submitted > > > > > > off the page at: > > > > > https://www-internal.slac.stanford.edu/web-server-register/ > > > > > > I do not know whether Stephen or Chuck is the "stickee" > > > > > > to make the request. > > > > > > > > > > > > (And no, I am not actually on the web server registration > > > > > > committee, so normally I would not get these. Charlotte > > > > > > was just being helpful.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Charlotte Hee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:41 PM > > > > > > > To: Buhrmaster, Gary > > > > > > > Subject: new pending web servers (fwd) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't see your name on the web servers list so I'm > > > forwarding > > > > > > > this to you. Please let me know if you do not > want to receive > > > > > > > these emails. thanks, Chee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:34:44 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > From: Charlotte Hee <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > Subject: new pending web servers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 6 new web server requests pending. > Should we meet > > > > > > > to go over them or start first with email > discussion? Also, > > > > > > > any progress on the atb server? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New requests: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Node Server Primary Admin > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > www-bis2 windows Jean-Raymond X Pierre > > > > > > > ganglia01 apache Yemi Adesanya > > > > > > > ganglia02 apache Yemi Adesanya > > > > > > > esh4d windows Hope Johnson > > > > > > > ped windows Dean Zanardeli > > > > > > > ssrp apache Alan Winston > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, Chee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > /------------------------------------+-------------------------\ > > > > > |Stephen J. Gowdy, SLAC | CERN > Office: 32-2-A22| > > > > > |http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~gowdy/ | CH-1211 > Geneva 23 | > > > > > |http://calendar.yahoo.com/gowdy | Switzerland > | > > > > > |EMail: [log in to unmask] | Tel: +41 22 > 767 5840 | > > > > > > \------------------------------------+-------------------------/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > /------------------------------------+-------------------------\ > > > |Stephen J. Gowdy, SLAC | CERN Office: 32-2-A22| > > > |http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~gowdy/ | CH-1211 Geneva 23 | > > > |http://calendar.yahoo.com/gowdy | Switzerland | > > > |EMail: [log in to unmask] | Tel: +41 22 767 5840 | > > > \------------------------------------+-------------------------/ > > > > > > > -- > /------------------------------------+-------------------------\ > |Stephen J. Gowdy, SLAC | CERN Office: 32-2-A22| > |http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~gowdy/ | CH-1211 Geneva 23 | > |http://calendar.yahoo.com/gowdy | Switzerland | > |EMail: [log in to unmask] | Tel: +41 22 767 5840 | > \------------------------------------+-------------------------/ >