This is not known at the moment and I am not sure if we can do this. We are extenting the first mx bin to the cut value. I am not sure if there is still enough information for the fit, but Urs et al have done the same, haven't they? Cheers, Wolfgang [log in to unmask] wrote: > How big is the error you get on the "total" rate, i.e. up to 2.5 GeV or > so? I have to admit that I'm a real fan of pursuing both the "theory > intensive" and "OPE-only" approaches. > > Bob > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Heiko Lacker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> there is one point to consider though: it is well possible that the >> theoretical error will go down in the future such that the total >> error would be smaller at e.g. 1.625. Therefore this conclusion is >> a moving target. >> >> Cheers, >> Heiko >> >> >> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Wolfgang Menges wrote: >> >>> Hi Bob, >>> >>> we discussed this issue a bit after the AWG reading. We want to quote >>> only the number for one Mx cut, which will be 1.55 GeV. We calculated >>> all systematics for two other cuts, 1.625 and 1.7. The result at 1.55 is >>> the best in total error. The numbers are in the appendix of our support BAD. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Wolfgang >>> >>> [log in to unmask] wrote: >>>> One question that doesn't appear in the outline: for which cuts on Mx will >>>> we show results? In particular, how high in Mx do you plan to go? Urs, >>>> Rolf and Ed went to 2.5 GeV using Run 1-2 only; will you go this high? If >>>> not, why not? Sorry if this question already has an obvious answer; I >>>> hvaen't been following this closely. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Jochen Dingfelder wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Heiko et al.: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for informing us about your target time schedule. >>>>> The PAC/DPAC were hoping to send your analysis to DPF, >>>>> i.e. the analysis would have to go to RC by mid-September. >>>>> Looking at your schedule this seems unlikely, right? >>>>> Could you please confirm? We will then let the PAC know. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jochen >>>>> >>>>>> here is our publication time schedule: >>>>>> >>>>>> End of July: Documentation of new strategy of mES fit into BAD >>>>>> (Antonio & Concezio) >>>>>> Also D** issue? >>>>>> August: Parallel work: >>>>>> * Working on backup solution (Wolfgang) >>>>>> --> higher purity cut: Old model >>>>>> * New strategy with higher purity cut (Chukwudi) >>>>>> CM (Sept.): Presentation of mES fit strategy >>>>>> Supporting document with fixed mES strategy --> AWG >>>>>> End of Sep: Analysis to RC (fit strategy approved?) >>>>>> Beg. of Oct: If yes: Evaluation of systematics >>>>>> Mid of Oct: Paper draft to RC and then to CWR >>>>>> >>>>>> Our attempt to find a new well-controlled mES fit strategy >>>>>> despite a lot of work has not converged to a stable version >>>>>> yet. We suspect that we are suffering from the low purity. >>>>>> As a consequence, we will try to understand if we can find >>>>>> a stable solution with tighter cuts on purity. In parallel, >>>>>> Wolfgang will look into the same direction but try to under- >>>>>> stand if we could simply use in this case our old strategy >>>>>> as a fall-back solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> A status report does not seem possbile before the September >>>>>> CM due to the August holiday period. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Heiko >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\////////////////// >>>> / Robert V. Kowalewski \/ Dept. of Physics and Astronomy \ >>>> \ particle.phys.uvic.ca/~kowalews /\ University of Victoria / >>>> / Tel: (250)721-7705 \/ P.O. Box 3055 \ >>>> \ Email: [log in to unmask] /\ Victoria, BC V8W 3P6 / >>>> /////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ >>>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Wolfgang Menges >>> Queen Mary, University of London SLAC, MS 35 >>> Mile End Road 2575 Sand Hill Road >>> London, E1 4NS, UK Menlo Park, CA 94025, USA >>> +44 20 7882 3753 ++1 650 926 8503 >>> [log in to unmask] >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > > \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\////////////////// > / Robert V. Kowalewski \/ Dept. of Physics and Astronomy \ > \ particle.phys.uvic.ca/~kowalews /\ University of Victoria / > / Tel: (250)721-7705 \/ P.O. Box 3055 \ > \ Email: [log in to unmask] /\ Victoria, BC V8W 3P6 / > /////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wolfgang Menges Queen Mary, University of London SLAC, MS 35 Mile End Road 2575 Sand Hill Road London, E1 4NS, UK Menlo Park, CA 94025, USA +44 20 7882 3753 ++1 650 926 8503 [log in to unmask] ------------------------------------------------------------------------