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I am not sure of what Ed/Urs have done, but it should not be difficult to have more bins up to the cut value, say 2.5 GeV, in the mX analysis. As a matter of fact, we are already doing this for the high q2 region in mX-q2 fit. Ciao, Concezio. Il giorno gio, 27-07-2006 alle 16:20 +0200, Wolfgang Menges ha scritto: > This is not known at the moment and I am not sure if we can do this. We > are extenting the first mx bin to the cut value. I am not sure if there > is still enough information for the fit, but Urs et al have done the > same, haven't they? > > Cheers, > > Wolfgang > > [log in to unmask] wrote: > > How big is the error you get on the "total" rate, i.e. up to 2.5 GeV or > > so? I have to admit that I'm a real fan of pursuing both the "theory > > intensive" and "OPE-only" approaches. > > > > Bob > > > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Heiko Lacker wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> there is one point to consider though: it is well possible that the > >> theoretical error will go down in the future such that the total > >> error would be smaller at e.g. 1.625. Therefore this conclusion is > >> a moving target. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Heiko > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Wolfgang Menges wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Bob, > >>> > >>> we discussed this issue a bit after the AWG reading. We want to quote > >>> only the number for one Mx cut, which will be 1.55 GeV. We calculated > >>> all systematics for two other cuts, 1.625 and 1.7. The result at 1.55 is > >>> the best in total error. The numbers are in the appendix of our support BAD. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Wolfgang > >>> > >>> [log in to unmask] wrote: > >>>> One question that doesn't appear in the outline: for which cuts on Mx will > >>>> we show results? In particular, how high in Mx do you plan to go? Urs, > >>>> Rolf and Ed went to 2.5 GeV using Run 1-2 only; will you go this high? If > >>>> not, why not? Sorry if this question already has an obvious answer; I > >>>> hvaen't been following this closely. > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Jochen Dingfelder wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Heiko et al.: > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for informing us about your target time schedule. > >>>>> The PAC/DPAC were hoping to send your analysis to DPF, > >>>>> i.e. the analysis would have to go to RC by mid-September. > >>>>> Looking at your schedule this seems unlikely, right? > >>>>> Could you please confirm? We will then let the PAC know. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Jochen > >>>>> > >>>>>> here is our publication time schedule: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> End of July: Documentation of new strategy of mES fit into BAD > >>>>>> (Antonio & Concezio) > >>>>>> Also D** issue? > >>>>>> August: Parallel work: > >>>>>> * Working on backup solution (Wolfgang) > >>>>>> --> higher purity cut: Old model > >>>>>> * New strategy with higher purity cut (Chukwudi) > >>>>>> CM (Sept.): Presentation of mES fit strategy > >>>>>> Supporting document with fixed mES strategy --> AWG > >>>>>> End of Sep: Analysis to RC (fit strategy approved?) > >>>>>> Beg. of Oct: If yes: Evaluation of systematics > >>>>>> Mid of Oct: Paper draft to RC and then to CWR > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Our attempt to find a new well-controlled mES fit strategy > >>>>>> despite a lot of work has not converged to a stable version > >>>>>> yet. We suspect that we are suffering from the low purity. > >>>>>> As a consequence, we will try to understand if we can find > >>>>>> a stable solution with tighter cuts on purity. In parallel, > >>>>>> Wolfgang will look into the same direction but try to under- > >>>>>> stand if we could simply use in this case our old strategy > >>>>>> as a fall-back solution. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A status report does not seem possbile before the September > >>>>>> CM due to the August holiday period. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> Heiko > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\////////////////// > >>>> / Robert V. Kowalewski \/ Dept. of Physics and Astronomy \ > >>>> \ particle.phys.uvic.ca/~kowalews /\ University of Victoria / > >>>> / Tel: (250)721-7705 \/ P.O. 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