ATLAS SCCS Planning 16Aug2006 ----------------------------- SCCS Conf Rm A, to call in +1 510 665 5437, press 1, 3935# Present: Booker, Stephen, Wei, Richard, Chuck, Randy, Charlie, Steffen Agenda: 1. DQ2 Status/Web Proxy Tried limit access to bear minimum. Difficult to find out what that actually was. Stopped production at SLAC since Monday. Opened up a little yesterday (to allow updates from inside the SLAC network). Developers have had feedback about security from their management. Two issues to do with it. There is the web page with the username and passwords. And there is the issue of leaving that user as being able to do anything with the mysql database. No other feedback yet on the webserver. Pleased with the fact that offsite use has been limited. Not sure if it still requires permission or not (no offsite access but the administrator can change it). 2. Trigger Farm Status Nothing to say this week. 3. ATLAS Oracle Server The machine is installed (racked and powered) and working with Charley to get a network. 4. Slots for ATLAS Production jobs and other batch related stuff Neal is back, so he can set it up now. iptables hack has been deployed on the batch system. It looks like the success rate recently has been near 100%. We could think about increasing the number of jobs that can run for production. Not sure we want to raise the limit while everyone is out of town, perhaps after we get back next week. 5. Tier-2 Web Page Wei has agreed to be responsible for the webpage. Richard has had an exchange of email with Su Dong and Doug Olsen about what to do with grid certificates. Folk should get a SLAC certificate, as people at SLAC will know in general who they are. Arla would be the sponsor. There are some issues to do with adding users to the list of users being able to use SLAC. It does seem that being added to the ATLAS list doesn't actually entitle you to get access, so it is fine that this is a different step. For the moment I (or Charlie) can email requests for people to be added. For normal accounts they should fill in the SLUO form and then fax the account request form (and other AUP forms) to Charlie. Not sure how we add new place to the list of institutions on the SLUO form. We still need to establish who the PIs are. This is probably an issue for SLUO. Perhaps should add all US Institutions. 6. AOB Tier-2 Advisory Board meeting was help last Monday. There were Jim Shank and everyone but Peter Long and Charlie from the proposal and many folk from SCCS. Was appropriate not to have Richard as the chair. Nominations are accepted up to Monday and then there will be an election, some already received. Richard describes our plans to get the Tier-2 up before we get any money. Would like to get it fully functional by the time of the analysis workshop at LBL in October. Talked about the relationship between the top down management from ATLAS and the upwards representation from the users. The Resource Allocation Board for US ATLAS happens to have a person from each Tier-2 so perhaps should have the chair added. The current situation is that 80% of the Tier-2 resources so go to Simulation Production, that is a little strange as 2/3 of the money was directed to go towards storage (which are not used a great deal by simulation production). To keep resources flowing into Tier-2s it is important to be responsive to local requests. It seems like the ability of the Advisory Board to steer decisions will be stronger than it might look on paper. As we have no experience of running the Tier-2 wanted advice on if the split was okay in the proposal between disk and CPU. The current setup was described where we have SL machines for building and run RHEL for the backend. Jim would really like us to make that work for ATLAS but someone has to do the validation. Need to arrange for someone to do the validation. Not sure what a validation is currently. Production does do some sort of validation before running, so something has already been done. Harvard Workshop: Agenda: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=4897 Email [log in to unmask] MAC address for wireless access. Action Items: ------------- 060816 Wei Setup ATLAS/SLAC Webpage 060816 Charlie Talk to SLUO about adding institutions. 060816 Neal Setup atlas priority group for LSF 060816 Chuck Check with Bob about web server approval need 060809 Richard Come back with person responsible for web site 060816 Done. Found Wei. 060809 Stephen Ask what dq2user needs to do in MySQL 060816 No good answer. Limited to dq2user from offsite can only SELECT from localreplicas. From onsite can do SELECT,UPDATE,DELETE and INSERT to either localreplicas or queued_transfers_SLAC. We'll see if that works or not. Without onsite privileges production stopped. 060802 Stephen Find out about failing ATLAS jobs at SLAC 060809 Wei asked if anything useful and there were 9 completely successful jobs (but those were tests). We should find out if the intermediate files are kept and are useful. 060816 Wei iptables to use the local replica seems to solve the problem. Done. 060726 Stephen Find out about maximum memory and local storage per job 060802 No news yet. 060809 No news yet. 060824 Official answer is 2GB memory... biggest is reco just now at 1.3GB, still to add magnetic field map. Many simulation jobs around 500MB. If we don't put more than one ATLAS job on a node should be okay for the near future. Raises question of how much pressure we feel to put on non-ATLAS orders to get more than 1GB/core. 060412 Systems Provide Oracle service for ATLAS Trigger testing (RT 46089) 060419 No ticket yet, so nothing done. 060426 Now have ticket 46089. 060503 No news. 060524 Steffen has provided configuration information. Now in Chuck's hands. 060628 Randy will ask Chuck about status. 060726 First on list for V240 but not sure when it will happen. Will put a T3a on it. 060802 John checking for rack space. 060809 Still needs allocated rack space. 060224 Chuck Will check on web server request for DQ2 machine 060301 Waiting for web server request information from Stephen. 060308 Haven't checked yet; haven't received Stephen's request yet. 060315 Still not sent Chuck information. 060405 No update. 060412 No update. 060419 No update. 060426 Resubmitted request as it was lost before. 060503 Not heard anything for about two weeks. 060524 Stephen need to update ticket, moving from yakut to DQ2 machine. 060628 Request updated now running on atl-dq2, waiting for scan. 060726 Meeting on Monday about this. 060802 Requesting new user to run services, blocked offsite web access, Need to explore MySQL security. 060809 New user available, more ideas for MySQL security. 060816 New action item created due to change of request. 060224 Richard Discuss ATLAS trigger machines with others in SCCS 060301 Only limited response from John W was resigned acceptance... need to work on an actual deployment plan as there are real issues to be solved. 060308 John aware and in plans as much as anything is. New engineer will take over. 060315 No update. 060405 No update. 060412 No update. 060419 No update. 060426 No update. 060503 No update. 060524 RT 45823. Engineer looking at power availability. On track for August. 060628 Understand schedule, Randy will make sure John is aware. 060726 Need to nail down when power will be available. Steffen things he can make it happen with existing equipment. 060802 Looks like this will fit in SCCS. Can reuse rack, switches and fibres. 060809 Everything looking good for this now.