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We're talking about existing SLAC users, right?  Not to beat this into the ground (OK, yes, I am), but I want to be SURE we're talking about the same thing and not talking about registering a bunch of new users only for Atlas (unless they have a specific need for a shell account at SLAC.

BC

> 
> I tend to favor this approach.  If the secondary account request is added
> in the "Additional instructions or special group requirements" section of
> the account form, things should go through smoothly.  If the ATLAS user
> neglects to add it to the form, the czar can to add it before he signs
> (more often than not, the czar is the one who really knows what the person
> needs).
> Thanks, Arla
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Young, Charles C.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 5:31 PM
> To: Moss, Leonard J.
> Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; LeCount, Arla
> Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> 
> Hi Len,
> 
> I guess the question is whether adding secondary group is truly ATLAS
> specific or if it's a generally available (if seldom utilized) service
> during account creation. To the extent it's the latter, the Help Desk
> doesn't have to know anything special about ATLAS. They are simply
> executing a normal request. I hope we don't get into the practice of
> questioning whether a person signing knows what he has signed. Cheers.
> 
> 					Charlie
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Moss, Leonard J.
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:35 PM
> > To: Young, Charles C.
> > Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; LeCount,
> > Arla
> > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 at 13:55 [-0700], Young, Charles C. wrote:
> >
> > > This is a much better way of doing it. We will keep the account
> > > creation process fairly generic, and won't be asking the
> > Help Desk to
> > > know anything about ATLAS work space, which is what I
> > wanted to avoid.
> > >
> > > Maybe instead of having the czar add the comment, the ATLAS
> > specific
> > > instructions can tell the user to do this?
> >
> > Well, I think that's leaning back towards asking the Help Desk to know
> > something special about Atlas procedures.  If a new user in, say, the
> > GLAST group requested membership in some GLAST-related secondary group
> > I'm not certain our Help Desk people would simply assume that the czar
> > had really noticed that request, and intended to approve it, when
> > he/she signed the form.  That's just my opinion, though.  I think this
> > is another issue we should invite Arla to comment on.
> >