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Hi Bob, We are talking about both existing and new users. But only those who need log-in. GRID-only users are not a different breed. Cheers. Charlie -- Charles C. Young M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center P.O. Box 20450 Stanford, CA 94309 [log in to unmask] voice (650) 926 2669 fax (650) 926 2923 CERN GSM +41 76 487 2069 > -----Original Message----- > From: Cowles, Robert D. > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:41 PM > To: LeCount, Arla; Young, Charles C.; Moss, Leonard J. > Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; helpdesk-l > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page > > We're talking about existing SLAC users, right? Not to beat > this into the ground (OK, yes, I am), but I want to be SURE > we're talking about the same thing and not talking about > registering a bunch of new users only for Atlas (unless they > have a specific need for a shell account at SLAC. > > BC > > > > > I tend to favor this approach. If the secondary account request is > > added in the "Additional instructions or special group > requirements" > > section of the account form, things should go through smoothly. If > > the ATLAS user neglects to add it to the form, the czar can > to add it > > before he signs (more often than not, the czar is the one > who really > > knows what the person needs). > > Thanks, Arla > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Young, Charles C. > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 5:31 PM > > To: Moss, Leonard J. > > Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; LeCount, > > Arla > > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page > > > > Hi Len, > > > > I guess the question is whether adding secondary group is > truly ATLAS > > specific or if it's a generally available (if seldom > utilized) service > > during account creation. To the extent it's the latter, the > Help Desk > > doesn't have to know anything special about ATLAS. They are simply > > executing a normal request. I hope we don't get into the > practice of > > questioning whether a person signing knows what he has > signed. Cheers. > > > > Charlie > > -- > > Charles C. Young > > M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center P.O. Box 20450 > Stanford, > > CA 94309 [log in to unmask] voice (650) 926 2669 > > fax (650) 926 2923 > > CERN GSM +41 76 487 2069 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Moss, Leonard J. > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:35 PM > > > To: Young, Charles C. > > > Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei; > atlas-sccs-planning-l; LeCount, > > > Arla > > > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 at 13:55 [-0700], Young, Charles C. wrote: > > > > > > > This is a much better way of doing it. We will keep the account > > > > creation process fairly generic, and won't be asking the > > > Help Desk to > > > > know anything about ATLAS work space, which is what I > > > wanted to avoid. > > > > > > > > Maybe instead of having the czar add the comment, the ATLAS > > > specific > > > > instructions can tell the user to do this? > > > > > > Well, I think that's leaning back towards asking the Help Desk to > > > know something special about Atlas procedures. If a new user in, > > > say, the GLAST group requested membership in some GLAST-related > > > secondary group I'm not certain our Help Desk people would simply > > > assume that the czar had really noticed that request, and > intended > > > to approve it, when he/she signed the form. That's just > my opinion, > > > though. I think this is another issue we should invite > Arla to comment on. > > > > >