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Hi,Fabrizio!

thanks, but sorry - what's the tool? :(

Artem.

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Fabrizio Furano wrote:

> Hi Artem,
>
>   yes, it is. For other commands just type "help" at the command prompt.
> If you have any problems, let me know.
>
> Fabrizio
>
> Artem Trunov wrote:
> > Hi,Andy!
> >
> > Is it available via command line interface?
> >
> > artem.
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Pavel,
> >>
> >> Yes, look at XrdClientAdmin.hh. The XrdClientAdmin interface has a
> >> Prepare() method that allows you to pass a list of files. This list is
> >> passed to xrootd which then locates the files and locates them. If you
> >> also specify kXR_stage then the files will be staged if not on disk. There
> >> are additional options but for now this should be enough to get you going.
> >>
> >> That said, what we have found is that unless you have taken great care to
> >> group files that will be likely used together on the same tape (something
> >> we find difficult to do), the probability of improving tape access is
> >> rather low unless you get a huge list of files into HPSS. That in itself
> >> causes other problems.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Pavel Jakl wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Andy and others,
> >>>
> >>> I would like to discuss the topic of having a possibility to "prepare" a
> >>> list of files before user's jobs processing or at the beginning of the
> >>> job.  The fact why I am rising this topic is a optimization of the
> >>> access to our tape system (HPSS).
> >>>
> >>> What we are doing now is that we organize the requests in a fashion that
> >>> we have as many file requests as possible on the same tape at HPSS and
> >>> therefore achieve better IO performance. Of course, one can imagine that
> >>> when we would have bigger list than we can sort better and have more
> >>> file's requests at the same tape.
> >>>
> >>> Our framework gives a possibility that user's lists within one job are
> >>> already sorted in some fashion and with a big hope that those files are
> >>> presumably at the same tape. The problem is that processing of these
> >>> lists goes at subsequent order, one by one.
> >>> So, my effort is to give to xrootd a list of files to "prepared" before
> >>> processing them (or at least the full list would start to be prepared
> >>> when job will start). Can I somehow "publish" to server that these files
> >>> from the list, I will use in very close future ?
> >>>
> >>> So, I have figured 2 possible cases how to do it:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Use AsyncOpen at client side
> >>>
> >>>     I am scared of this solution, since it can use lots of resources
> >>> with many simultaneously opened connections. I can see jobs with
> >>> thousand of files. In our case, when we have 400 nodes for job's
> >>> processing, it could be very big number of connections to redirector node.
> >>>
> >>> 2) There is some sort of "prepare" methods at server side. So, how can I
> >>> call them from the client side ?
> >>>
> >>> This solution would be better for me, if I could somehow pass the list
> >>> to the server through the client and do not need any other assistance or
> >>> presence of the client at each file's preparation.
> >>> I know that there could be a problem with this. The files can disappear
> >>> between the prepared and actual requested time of processing. (server
> >>> went down, purging etc.). I think that the occurrence of this case is
> >>> usually very small. However, I didn't make any sophisticated
> >>> investigation to prove it since it would be very hard to get these
> >>> statistic.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any suggestion or help
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Pavel
> >>>
>