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Hi Charlie, ok I will work on a summary of what we just experienced and learned and get that to you before we meet. -Renata On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Young, Charles C. wrote: >Hi Wei, > >It could be helpful to get the BaBar input beforehand so we could all think about it, in order to make the meeting more productive. Cheers. > > Charlie >-- >Charles C. Young >M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center >P.O. Box 20450 >Stanford, CA 94309 >[log in to unmask] >voice (650) 926 2669 >fax (650) 926 2923 >CERN GSM +41 76 487 2069 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [log in to unmask] >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >> Behalf Of Wei Yang >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:23 PM >> To: atlas-sccs-planning-l >> Cc: Zachary Marshall; David W. Miller; Dart, Renata >> Subject: Re: Atlas AFS volume layout >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> Atlas already have many volumes. We don't have to have this >> meeting next week. We can wait until you are back to SLAC. >> You and Stephen are the two people (known to SCCS) that have >> a deep knowledge of potential issues. >> >> regards, >> >> Wei Yang | [log in to unmask] | 650-926-3338(O) >> >> >> Young, Charles C. wrote: >> > Hi Wei, >> > >> > This is a good idea to start out living cleanly. As you >> have no doubt >> > noticed, the usual time does not work really well for me, >> especially >> > when I am at CERN. I am here till 5/5, back at SLAC for two >> weeks, and >> > then back to CERN for 3 weeks. Cheers. >> > >> > Charlie >> > -- >> > Charles C. Young >> > M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center >> > P.O. Box 20450 >> > Stanford, CA 94309 >> > [log in to unmask] >> > voice (650) 926 2669 >> > fax (650) 926 2923 >> > CERN GSM +41 76 487 2069 >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [log in to unmask] >> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >> Behalf Of >> >> Wei Yang >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:13 PM >> >> To: atlas-sccs-planning-l; Zachary Marshall; David W. >> Miller; Dart, >> >> Renata >> >> Subject: Atlas AFS volume layout >> >> >> >> At yesterday's meeting, Len Moss had some important >> suggestions about >> >> AFS volume layout for ATLAS group space. It will effect the >> >> performance in the future. Len mentioned that Babar had a painful >> >> experience of re-organize their AFS layout at a later >> time. I hope it >> >> is not too late for ATLAS. >> >> >> >> I would like to propose a brief meeting, maybe in the first/last >> >> 20-30 minutes during one of our regular ATLAS-SCCS meetings, to >> >> discuss what is the best practice to organize ATLAS group volumes. >> >> Here is a short list of things I can think of: >> >> >> >> 1) Babar's experience (in AFS layout) to prevent hard >> hitting of AFS >> >> servers when hundreds of jobs start at the same time >> >> >> >> 2) What is the current ATLAS Atlas volume layout >> >> >> >> Len and Renata will attend this discussion. I hope that either >> >> Charlie or Stephen will present. And since Zach is >> installing ATLAS >> >> releases, maybe Zach is interested? >> >> >> >> Our regular ATLAS-SCCS meeting is Wednesday 9-10am PDT. >> >> People can dial in as well. >> >> >> >> Please let me know what you think and we can decide the date. >> >> >> >> P.S. There is also a AFS & Kerberos Best Practices Workshop in May >> >> 7-11 at SLAC. It is mostly for administrators but it does include >> >> tutorial sessions at the beginning. >> >> >> >> http://www.pmw.org/afsbpw07 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Wei Yang | [log in to unmask] | 650-926-3338(O) >> >> >> > >