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If Len, Renata, Charlie and Zach can confirm they'll make that date I 
think we should have everyone.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Yang, Wei wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> I think the schedule should fit Len, Renata, and people at ATLAS user side that do most of the AFS planning, requesting and release installation. I assume those people are not you or Charlie (although the availability of one of you is important, at least on the phone). If the schedule can't fit those important ATLAS users, then I worry that the usefulness of this discussion is reduced.
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:29 AM
>> To: Young, Charles C.
>> Cc: Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; Zachary Marshall; David
>> W. Miller; Dart, Renata
>> Subject: RE: Atlas AFS volume layout
>>
>> Why don't I add this to the agenda for the 9th May meeting?
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Young, Charles C. wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Wei,
>>>
>>> This is a good idea to start out living cleanly. As you
>> have no doubt noticed, the usual time does not work really
>> well for me, especially when I am at CERN. I am here till
>> 5/5, back at SLAC for two weeks, and then back to CERN for 3
>> weeks. Cheers.
>>>
>>> 					Charlie
>>> --
>>> Charles C. Young
>>> M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center P.O. Box 20450
>> Stanford,
>>> CA 94309 [log in to unmask] voice  (650) 926 2669
>>> fax    (650) 926 2923
>>> CERN GSM +41 76 487 2069
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> Behalf Of
>>>> Wei Yang
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:13 PM
>>>> To: atlas-sccs-planning-l; Zachary Marshall; David W.
>> Miller; Dart,
>>>> Renata
>>>> Subject: Atlas AFS volume layout
>>>>
>>>> At yesterday's meeting, Len Moss had some important
>> suggestions about
>>>> AFS volume layout for ATLAS group space. It will effect the
>>>> performance in the future. Len mentioned that Babar had a painful
>>>> experience of re-organize their AFS layout at a later
>> time. I hope it
>>>> is not too late for ATLAS.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to propose a brief meeting, maybe in the first/last
>>>> 20-30 minutes during one of our regular ATLAS-SCCS meetings, to
>>>> discuss what is the best practice to organize ATLAS group volumes.
>>>> Here is a short list of things I can think of:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Babar's experience (in AFS layout) to prevent hard
>> hitting of AFS
>>>> servers when hundreds of jobs start at the same time
>>>>
>>>> 2) What is the current ATLAS Atlas volume layout
>>>>
>>>> Len and Renata will attend this discussion. I hope that either
>>>> Charlie or Stephen will present. And since Zach is
>> installing ATLAS
>>>> releases, maybe Zach is interested?
>>>>
>>>> Our regular ATLAS-SCCS meeting is Wednesday 9-10am PDT.
>>>> People can dial in as well.
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know what you think and we can decide the date.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. There is also a AFS & Kerberos Best Practices Workshop in May
>>>> 7-11 at SLAC. It is mostly for administrators but it does include
>>>> tutorial sessions at the beginning.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pmw.org/afsbpw07
>>>>
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>>>> Wei Yang  |  [log in to unmask]  |  650-926-3338(O)
>>>>
>>>
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