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I'll be there by phone. Thanks!! Zach On Apr 27, 2007, at 1:54 AM, Stephen J. Gowdy wrote: > If Len, Renata, Charlie and Zach can confirm they'll make that date > I think we should have everyone. > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Yang, Wei wrote: > >> Hi Stephen, >> >> I think the schedule should fit Len, Renata, and people at ATLAS >> user side that do most of the AFS planning, requesting and release >> installation. I assume those people are not you or Charlie >> (although the availability of one of you is important, at least on >> the phone). If the schedule can't fit those important ATLAS users, >> then I worry that the usefulness of this discussion is reduced. >> >> -- >> Wei Yang | [log in to unmask] | 650-926-3338(O) >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:29 AM >>> To: Young, Charles C. >>> Cc: Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; Zachary Marshall; David >>> W. Miller; Dart, Renata >>> Subject: RE: Atlas AFS volume layout >>> >>> Why don't I add this to the agenda for the 9th May meeting? >>> >>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Young, Charles C. wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Wei, >>>> >>>> This is a good idea to start out living cleanly. As you >>> have no doubt noticed, the usual time does not work really >>> well for me, especially when I am at CERN. I am here till >>> 5/5, back at SLAC for two weeks, and then back to CERN for 3 >>> weeks. Cheers. >>>> >>>> Charlie >>>> -- >>>> Charles C. Young >>>> M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center P.O. Box 20450 >>> Stanford, >>>> CA 94309 [log in to unmask] voice (650) 926 2669 >>>> fax (650) 926 2923 >>>> CERN GSM +41 76 487 2069 >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [log in to unmask] >>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>> Behalf Of >>>>> Wei Yang >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:13 PM >>>>> To: atlas-sccs-planning-l; Zachary Marshall; David W. >>> Miller; Dart, >>>>> Renata >>>>> Subject: Atlas AFS volume layout >>>>> >>>>> At yesterday's meeting, Len Moss had some important >>> suggestions about >>>>> AFS volume layout for ATLAS group space. It will effect the >>>>> performance in the future. Len mentioned that Babar had a painful >>>>> experience of re-organize their AFS layout at a later >>> time. I hope it >>>>> is not too late for ATLAS. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to propose a brief meeting, maybe in the first/last >>>>> 20-30 minutes during one of our regular ATLAS-SCCS meetings, to >>>>> discuss what is the best practice to organize ATLAS group volumes. >>>>> Here is a short list of things I can think of: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Babar's experience (in AFS layout) to prevent hard >>> hitting of AFS >>>>> servers when hundreds of jobs start at the same time >>>>> >>>>> 2) What is the current ATLAS Atlas volume layout >>>>> >>>>> Len and Renata will attend this discussion. I hope that either >>>>> Charlie or Stephen will present. And since Zach is >>> installing ATLAS >>>>> releases, maybe Zach is interested? >>>>> >>>>> Our regular ATLAS-SCCS meeting is Wednesday 9-10am PDT. >>>>> People can dial in as well. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know what you think and we can decide the date. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. There is also a AFS & Kerberos Best Practices Workshop in May >>>>> 7-11 at SLAC. It is mostly for administrators but it does include >>>>> tutorial sessions at the beginning. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.pmw.org/afsbpw07 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Wei Yang | [log in to unmask] | 650-926-3338(O) >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> /------------------------------------+-------------------------\ >>> |Stephen J. Gowdy, SLAC | CERN Office: 32-2-A22| >>> |http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~gowdy/ | CH-1211 Geneva 23 | >>> |http://calendar.yahoo.com/gowdy | Switzerland | >>> |EMail: [log in to unmask] | Tel: +41 22 767 5840 | >>> \------------------------------------+-------------------------/ >>> >> > > -- > /------------------------------------+-------------------------\ > |Stephen J. Gowdy, SLAC | CERN Office: 32-2-A22| > |http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~gowdy/ | CH-1211 Geneva 23 | > |http://calendar.yahoo.com/gowdy | Switzerland | > |EMail: [log in to unmask] | Tel: +41 22 767 5840 | > \------------------------------------+-------------------------/