Dear Ray and Group, I have house guests this week and may not be able to call in for our usual meeting since our time falls directly on the French dinner hour. In case I'm not able to call my comments/questions on BAD 2060 V.9 are below: 1. Line 180-183 states that charge conjugation is assumed. A question of physics - is it proper to assume CCI when there could be direct CP violation? In any case it's practical to do so but could the BR of B+ be different from the BR of B-, at least in principle? 2. The discussion of paragraph 211-236 is about the signal reconstruction cuts but leaves the reader hanging. I would like to see mention of efficiency and cleanness of the cuts to extract the signal. One must read further to get to Table I where the NN efficiencies and S/B are discussed. Some bridge sentence saying that there is more to come in the analysis would be helpful on line 236. 3. In the determination of the missing neutrino 4-momentum I am worried about the asymmetry of the BaBar detector stemming from the asymmetric collider. Are the segments of calorimetry and resolution of tracking completely symmetric in the COM? There seem to be an asymmetry in the cuts - line 263, for example or line 281. Perhaps a word about this would be reassuring ... Calorimetry resolution scales are 1/sqrt(E) so the high energy side has a different resolution from the low energy side of the detector, etc. 4. Line 281 - Is not a cosine bounded by {-1 to +1}? An 'unbounded' cosine is a ratio parameter and has nothing to do with an angle. 5. What are the errors of the parameters of Table I? Don't they contribute to the overall error? 6. The various numbers quoted in the text around lines 377-397 are hard to follow. It would be more clear is these were tabulated. 7. After line 480 - Mention is made at the beginning of the paper that these BRs could be used to better determine |Vub| but the paper concludes without any further enlightening of the |Vub| goal. Further in the next-to-last paragraph it says '.. decays are important ingredients in the understanding of the composition of the inclusive charmless semilelptonic decay rate'. Is this an obvious statement - or is there some deeper physics. To my reading it seems obvious as stated so perhaps some elaboration could be given ... or the sentence eliminated. Have a good meeting ... -- Best regards, Frank Frank E. Taylor CERN MIT ATLAS Collaboration Bldg. 26 - Rm 569 40-2-C24 & 188-3-015 77 Mass. Ave. Route de Meyrin 385, CH-1211 Geneva 23 Cambridge, MA 02139 Switzerland USA Office: +41-22-767-1152 or -6373 Office: 617-253-7249 FAX: +41-22-767-8350 FAX: 617-258-6923 CELL: 857-891-8579 (USA & Europe) CERN CELL +41 76 487 3563 email: [log in to unmask] web: http://www2.lns.mit.edu/~fet/atlas_mit.html haut Thoiry residence +33 45 041 7144 On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Ray F. Cowan wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Our next LQS group meeting will be Wednesday, July 16, at 2 PM Eastern. > Those of us at MIT can meet in the LNS conference room. > > Dial-in info: 510-665-5437, passcode 7336. > > Yet another BaBar paper review for ICHEP 2008 has arrived; we will review > it at this meeting. The url is below; I've also attached a pdf copy to > this email. > > - BAD 2060 v9 from the Semileptonic AWG: > - "Measurement of the B -> omega l nu and B -> eta l nu branching fractions > using neutrino reconstruction." > - http://www.slac.stanford.edu/BFROOT/www/Physics/BAD/vol17/02060.009.pdf > - This is a journal article aimed at Physical Review D - Rapid Communications > - Supporting Documents: BAD 2007 > - Previous related publication: None > - Changes since preliminary result: None > - Collaboration-wide talk: 9 July 2008 > - https://www.slac.stanford.edu/BFROOT/www/doc/BbrMeetingOrganizer/vol02/pro/mtg001201/itm0003933/ > > Our review of BAD 2059 v4 from last week was posted in Hypernews at > http://babar-hn.slac.stanford.edu:5090/HyperNews/get/rev-Charmon-07-01/19/3.html > The authors have not yet responded. > > Hope you can join in. > > Thanks, > --Ray >