Dear All, In answer to my own question about gravitation red shift from dark matter: The emitted photon sees only matter within its own light cone - hence it is influenced only by the gravitation field there and not by the larger mass ... but then again I'm not sure how to quantify this .... -- Best regards, Frank Frank E. Taylor CERN MIT ATLAS Collaboration Bldg. 26 - Rm 569 188-3-015 77 Mass. Ave. Route de Meyrin 385, CH-1211 Geneva 23 Cambridge, MA 02139 Switzerland USA Office: +41-22-767-6373 Office: 617-253-7249 FAX: +41-22-767-8350 FAX: 617-258-6923 CELL: 857-891-8579 (USA & Europe) CERN CELL +41 76 487 3563 email: [log in to unmask] web: http://www2.lns.mit.edu/~fet/atlas_mit.html On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Ray F. Cowan wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Our next LQS meeting is tomorrow, Thursday, Oct. 30, at 1 PM Eastern time. > Peter may not be able to make it, so those of us at MIT should find an > somewhere other than his office to meet in. > > Dial-in: 510-665-5437, passcode 7336. > > This week we'll discuss a paper suggested by Frank: Nature 255 p. 1082, > 23 October 2008, at > > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v455/n7216/abs/nature07366.html > > The paper calls in to question some of the basic assumptions about how > galaxies are formed and presents some suggestive ideas. A pdf copy > is attached. > > Thanks much, > --Ray >