yes! I mean e.g. root://eosatlas.cern.ch//eos/atlas/atlasdatadisk/ and you can see from here http://lemonweb.cern.ch/lemon-web/info.php?entity=eosatlas that there are eosatlassrv4, eosatlassrv2, eosatlassrv1, eosatlassrv3 machines behind that alias. we don't care about the single machine, we care about the service. ok? Thanks! Ale --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- Alessandro Di Girolamo CERN IT-ES-VOS +41764870532 (16-0532) http://www.cern.ch/Diggi --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Rob Gardner wrote: > Ale, > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Alessandro Di Girolamo wrote: > >> Ok Julia, >> >> >> Rob, for the topology, what we would need: >> final goal: >> - we will ask WLCG to have the xroot service become a real service in OSG and GOCDB. Then we ask sites to declare their xroot servers. In this way the xroot service will become like an SRM, or a GRIDFTP. > > > Just to clarify, when we speak of xrootd servers at the site I believe in this context we mean site-level redirectors, not xrootd data servers. > > >> step-by-step: >> - since I know that "politics" on this is slow, and then sites don't publish correctly, we will need in the meanwhile a first list of xroot servers. >> - you send me a list with some basic structure, e.g. SiteName (please check AGIS for this http://atlas-agis-dev.cern.ch/agis/site/table_view/), and root:endpoint:port/path >> - we include them in AGIS, and we publish them so that people can see them >> - we create a way to declare them in AGIS for the future. >> - when the step of having the xroot service in GOCDB/OIM is done and sites have published the services then AGIS collects them from there and automatically associate them to the right site. >> >> Ok? > > All sounds good to me. > > - Rob > > >> >> >> >> --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- >> Alessandro Di Girolamo >> CERN IT-ES-VOS >> +41764870532 (16-0532) >> http://www.cern.ch/Diggi >> --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- >> >> On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Julia Andreeva wrote: >> >>> >>> Great, thanks a lot, Alessandro. >>> Looking forward. >>> Cheers >>> Julia >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Alessandro Di Girolamo wrote: >>> >>>> Ciao Julia, >>>> I think I have to take care about that, Rob gave me already enough info. >>>> >>>> we have already fixed the MWT2 site, I've to check what we publish into the xml >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- >>>> Alessandro Di Girolamo >>>> CERN IT-ES-VOS >>>> +41764870532 (16-0532) >>>> http://www.cern.ch/Diggi >>>> --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- >>>> >>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Rob Gardner wrote: >>>> >>>>> Julia, >>>>> >>>>> I'll attempt to answer one part of your question. >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Julia Andreeva wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Integrating the xrootd transfers into the WLCG Transfer Dashboard >>>>>> we need to resolve topology. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are trying to resolve domain of the servers and clients to a particular site. >>>>>> As an information source , we are currently using the CMS and ATLAS VO topology descriptors, the same ones which are used for SAM. >>>>>> >>>>>> However there are several cases we are currently not able to resolve. >>>>>> Please, see the list below. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help and recommendations are very much welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Julia >>>>>> >>>>>> For ATLAS for the domains below we found more than one site, so the question is, which site should be mapped to this domain for the time being >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> MWT2 is a three-site Tier 2 federation (served by a single set of endpoints) with physical locations separated by 3-5 msec RTT, and therefore important to distinguish for federated access. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> - {"site_name": "MWT2, MWT2_UC", "domain": "mwt2.org", "vo":"atlas"} >>>>>> - {"site_name": "MWT2, MWT2_UC", "domain": "uchicago.edu", "vo":"atlas"} >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure how you'd like to deal with this sub-structure in your monitoring. For the time being you could simply lump them together under MWT2. >>>>> >>>>> - Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> - {"site_name": "Firefly, Nebraska, Nebraska-Lincoln", "domain": "unl.edu", "vo":"atlas"} >>>>>> >>>>>> We could not find perfect match for the following domains, but there is the best guess in some cases >>>>>> >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "lal.stratuslab.eu"} >>>>>> I guess this one was used for the CMS cloud tests, should we map it to GRIF-LAL? >>>>>> >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "icecube.wisc.edu"} >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "che.wisc.edu"} >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "chtc.wisc.edu"} >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "lmcg.wisc.edu"} >>>>>> Can we map all those to GLOW? >>>>>> >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "fltech-grid3.fit.edu"} >>>>>> ? >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "ph.ed.ac.uk"} >>>>>> ? >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "red.hcc"} >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "red.hcc.unl.edu"} >>>>>> Can we map both to to Nebraska? >>>>>> >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "xlate.ufl.edu"} >>>>>> Can we map it to Uflorida-HPC? >>>>>> >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "ct.infn.it"} >>>>>> ? >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "naf.desy.de"} >>>>>> Can we map it to DESY-HH? >>>>>> >>>>>> {"site_name": "", "domain": "physics.ucsd.edu"} >>>>>> Can we map it to UCSDT2? >>>>>> >>>>>> ######################################################################## >>>>>> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the XROOTD-L list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=XROOTD-L&A=1 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> > ######################################################################## Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list To unsubscribe from the XROOTD-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=XROOTD-L&A=1