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> Do you need root dict support? I thought our code uses the standalone lcio api. Correct me if I am wrong. My impression was that I need the libraries to be able to open LCIO files from root. I'm not sure what "standalone lcio api" means, sorry... -y > > On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:18 AM, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi Omar, >> >> The file is attached. Also, my version of Cmake is 2.8.7, just to clear >> that up. >> >> Andrew >> >>> Hello Andrew and Yuri, >>> >>> In order to run the the LCIO to ROOT converter you are going to need to >>> compile the LCIO ROOT dictionaries i.e. BUILD_ROOTDICT=1. However, this at >>> least gives us a hint as to what may be the problem. >>> >>> Can you try running >>> >>> cmake -D BUILD_ROOTDICT=1 -D ROOT_DIR=<your ROOT directory> .. >>> >>> >>> again, and then send me the file "CMakeCache.txt" located in the >>> directory lcio/trunk/build/ ? >>> >>> >>> >>> --Omar Moreno >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:29 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I got LCIO to build successfully! The problem was with the ROOT >>>> dictionaries, and the line of code Omar suggested did the trick. >>>> >>>> Thanks everyone for your help, >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>>> Not yet, Andrew has classes to deal with first ;) >>>>> So far the suggestions were: >>>>> - verify cmake version (I think it's a very recent one because Andrew >>>> said >>>>> he had to install it for this) >>>>> - check the build without dictionaries >>>>> >>>>> we;ll get back to you. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> -y >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Graf, Norman A. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Yuri, >>>>>> Did you verify that your LCIO build was successful without specifying >>>>>> the >>>>>> root dictionary be built? >>>>>> Norman >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: [log in to unmask] [[log in to unmask]] >>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Yuri Gershtein [[log in to unmask]] >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:32 AM >>>>>> To: Omar Moreno >>>>>> Cc: McCormick, Jeremy I.; hps-software; [log in to unmask] >>>>>> Subject: Re: DSTs and work on slcio files using C++ >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Omar, >>>>>> >>>>>> great, so RH and MacOS work. >>>>>> Question is what to do if you have an Ubuntu. >>>>>> We'll try compiling without dictionaries and see what happens. >>>>>> But then again it would be unusable for our purposes, no? >>>>>> >>>>>> -y >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Omar Moreno wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I went ahead and built LCIO using the instructions found on the >>>>>> confluence and I didn't have an issue. I used ROOT version 5.34, >>>> cmake >>>>>> version 2.8.6 on OpenSuse 12.1. Building LCIO requires a cmake >>>> version >>>>>> greater than 2.6 so make sure that you have that installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like the problem is occurring when it's trying to generate >>>> the >>>>>> LCIO ROOT dictionaries (I think). If you issue the following cmake >>>>>> command >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> cmake -D BUILD_ROOTDICT=0 -D ROOT_DIR=$ROOTSYS .. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> and then issue the make command, does LCIO build successfully? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --Omar Moreno >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> yes, e-mail list was cc-ed… >>>>>> Adding Andrew to the thread again. >>>>>> >>>>>> He should verify, but I think it's a modern root release (5.34), and >>>>>> ROOTSYS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are set. >>>>>> Now with LCIO I am not sure - your instructions say to svn from the >>>>>> trunk. >>>>>> I'm not even positive that what I have on my Mac is the same version. >>>>>> >>>>>> -y >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Omar Moreno wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the email was initially sent to the mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like the errors occurs when compiling LCIO. What version of >>>>>> LCIO are you trying to compile? Also, what version of ROOT are you >>>>>> running? Finally, have you set ROOTSYS and added the root libraries >>>> to >>>>>> your path? >>>>>> >>>>>> --Omar Moreno >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013 4:04 PM, "McCormick, Jeremy I." >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "McCormick, Jeremy I." >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: DSTs and work on slcio files using C++ >>>>>> Date: April 1, 2013 4:00:02 PM PDT >>>>>> To: Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>>> >>>>>> Cc: Omar Moreno >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> "Nelson, Timothy Knight" >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> "Neal, Homer A." >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> "Jaros, John A." >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> "Graham, Mathew Thomas" >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> "Graf, Norman A." >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> "Moreno, Omar" >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> Maurik Holtrop >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> hps-software >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>>>, >>>>>> "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>" >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, please use the hps-software mailing list as it gets archived and >>>>>> most of these people are on it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks like a simple namespace issue. Is there a missing declaration >>>>>> like... >>>>>> >>>>>> using namespace lcio; >>>>>> >>>>>> Or if not that is it simply failing to find the lcio build? Did the >>>>>> lcio build complete without errors? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:44 PM, "Yuri Gershtein" >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Omar, >>>>>> >>>>>> as I mentioned, I followed these instructions and they worked >>>> perfectly >>>>>> for me on my Mac. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now my new student Andrew (Andrew meet the software experts, software >>>>>> experts meet Andrew) >>>>>> Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit, the instructions break. >>>>>> I.e. when he does make install he gets an error with the following >>>>>> disgnostics: >>>>>> >>>>>> 56%] Building CXX object >>>>>> lcio/CMakeFiles/lcioDict.dir/__/rootdict/UTIL.cxx.o >>>>>> In file included from >>>>>> /home/chill/Research/lcio/trunk/build/rootdict/UTIL.h:39:0, >>>>>> from >>>>>> /home/chill/Research/lcio/trunk/build/rootdict/UTIL.cxx:17: >>>>>> /home/chill/Research/lcio/trunk/src/cpp/include/UTIL/LCIterator.h: In >>>>>> constructor ‘UTIL::LCIterator<T>::LCIterator(EVENT::LCEvent*, const >>>>>> string&)’: >>>>>> /home/chill/Research/lcio/trunk/src/cpp/include/UTIL/LCIterator.h:69:10: >>>>>> error: ‘lcio’ has not been declared >>>>>> /home/chill/Research/lcio/trunk/src/cpp/include/UTIL/LCIterator.h: In >>>>>> constructor ‘UTIL::LCIterator<T>::LCIterator(EVENT::LCCollection*)’: >>>>>> /home/chill/Research/lcio/trunk/src/cpp/include/UTIL/LCIterator.h:89:10: >>>>>> error: ‘lcio’ has not been declared >>>>>> make[2]: *** [lcio/CMakeFiles/lcioDict.dir/__/rootdict/UTIL.cxx.o] >>>> Error >>>>>> 1 >>>>>> make[1]: *** [lcio/CMakeFiles/lcioDict.dir/all] Error 2 >>>>>> make: *** [all] Error 2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We just went together through the instructions from scratch, and the >>>>>> error persists. >>>>>> Did you see anything like that before? >>>>>> >>>>>> Since we are uploading things from the trunk, is it possible that the >>>>>> version he just downloaded is a >>>>>> different one? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> -y >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Omar Moreno wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Yuri, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry... I didn't mean to ding you for not googling first, >>>>>> >>>>>> ;) no harm done. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think all of your questions are good ones that we don't have >>>> answers >>>>>> to yet, and are the types of things we are grappling with in these >>>>>> discussions. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess I propose we figure out the boundary conditions resource-wise >>>>>> that we're dealing with first, >>>>>> and then figure out what kind of event content we can afford. >>>>>> >>>>>> The question of ROOT vs LCIO here is probably separate. ROOT is >>>> pretty >>>>>> good at packing the data, >>>>>> but then again I guess LCIO is as well, so size-wize this should not >>>>>> matter, correct? >>>>>> And if I can write a C++ program that reads in a file and writes out >>>> a >>>>>> root tree, this is just my analysis job. >>>>>> I.e. even in CMS, where all data, even RAW, are root files, I make >>>>>> another root tree for my own analyses purposes, >>>>>> and I actually see advantages in having LCIO microDSTs. An Ntuplizer >>>>>> that has TClonesArrays of >>>>>> some simple classes is pretty straightforward to write once we know >>>> the >>>>>> content, so I do not see how >>>>>> this is worth an argument at this point... >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I get Omar's code? I'd like to see if we can start using C++ >>>> to >>>>>> read in lcio files that we generate here at Rutgers. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you simple want to read LCIO files using the C++ API, I would >>>> start >>>>>> here: >>>> https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/hpsg/Loading+LCIO+Files+into+ROOT >>>>>> >>>>>> Here you will find all the instructions needed to install the LCIO >>>>>> library and will find a couple of examples. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want access to my code it is in a github. You can clone the >>>> repo >>>>>> using the following command: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> git clone https://github.com/omar-moreno/hps_dst/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The repo will contain the converter and the API used to access the >>>> event >>>>>> information. In order to build the binaries, simply use the Make >>>>>> command. Note that you need to make sure that the environmental >>>>>> variables described in the first link have been set correctly in >>>> order >>>>>> for the make command to work. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Once the binaries are made you can get usage information as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ./bin/write_hps_event -h >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you look at the converter code, it should give you an idea of how >>>> to >>>>>> loop over an LCIO event, access collections and so on. Also, if you >>>> run >>>>>> the following command >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ./bin/write_hps_event -i <lcio file> -d >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If will dump a printout of the collections available in the lcio >>>> file. >>>>>> Something like this >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> COLLECTION NAME COLLECTION TYPE NUMBER OF >>>>>> ELEMENTS >>>> =========================================================================== >>>>>> ConfirmedMCParticles MCParticle 0 >>>>>> EcalCalHits CalorimeterHit 2 >>>>>> EcalClusters Cluster 1 >>>>>> EcalReadoutHits RawCalorimeterHit 12 >>>>>> FPGAData LCGenericObject 7 >>>>>> HelicalTrackHitRelations LCRelation 0 >>>>>> HelicalTrackHits TrackerHit 0 >>>>>> HelicalTrackMCRelations LCRelation 0 >>>>>> MatchedTracks Track 0 >>>>>> RotatedHelicalTrackHitRelationsLCRelation 0 >>>>>> RotatedHelicalTrackHits TrackerHit 0 >>>>>> RotatedHelicalTrackMCRelationsLCRelation 0 >>>>>> SVTFittedRawTrackerHits LCRelation 43 >>>>>> SVTRawTrackerHits TrackerRawData 43 >>>>>> SVTShapeFitParameters LCGenericObject 43 >>>>>> SeededMCParticles MCParticle 0 >>>>>> StripClusterer_SiTrackerHitStrip1DTrackerHit 0 >>>>>> TriggerBank LCGenericObject 1 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This will give you the collection names you can access using the LCIO >>>>>> C++ API. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I must note that there are a lot of changes that I haven't pushed >>>> yet. >>>>>> I hoping to do that sometime this weekend once I have sometime I am >>>>>> happy with. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know if you have any questions or issues running it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --Omar Moreno >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -y >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, and apologies for not googling things before asking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, certainly, it is practical. LCIO was long ago settled on as the >>>>>> EDM for HPS and the LCIO output will be the raw output format of the >>>>>> experiment. Like any persistency framework, we can decide exactly >>>> what >>>>>> parts of the events we can afford to output to tape. That content >>>> has >>>>>> not yet been settled. There are some things that for whatever reason >>>>>> haven't been persisted as LCIO objects in the past (but should be) >>>> and >>>>>> there are other things we have been writing to the events that won't >>>> be >>>>>> feasible to keep when we have large volumes of data. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should we have this discussion with some concrete numbers for what >>>> the >>>>>> event sizes are going to be then and what computing / storage >>>> resources >>>>>> are going to be available at which sites? >>>>>> >>>>>> One could make an LCIO micro-DST also, but it seems the desire is to >>>>>> convert to ROOT at the point of slimming the data for analysis. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, I'm all for it, but there is also value in being able to run the >>>>>> same or similar code on DST or micro-DST… >>>>>> It's also would be great to define what is meant by "analysis" here - >>>>>> is alignment analysis? ECAL calibration? Development of electron ID? >>>>>> Do you foresee that it is all done in DST, or you have a separate >>>>>> calibration stream? >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, sorry, I'm just trying to come up to speed with the computing >>>>>> model, >>>>>> may be I can google those kind of questions as well… >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> -y >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>> Prof. Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>> >>>>>> http://physics.rutgers.edu/~gershtein >>>>>> (732)445-5500 >>>>>> x1794<tel:%28732%29445-5500%20x1794><tel:%28732%29445-5500%20x1794> >>>>>> W316 Serin Building >>>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>>> 136 Frelinghuysen Rd >>>>>> Rutgers University >>>>>> Piscataway, NJ 08854 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>> Prof. Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>> >>>>>> http://physics.rutgers.edu/~gershtein >>>>>> (732)445-5500 >>>>>> x1794<tel:%28732%29445-5500%20x1794><tel:%28732%29445-5500%20x1794> >>>>>> W316 Serin Building >>>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>>> 136 Frelinghuysen Rd >>>>>> Rutgers University >>>>>> Piscataway, NJ 08854 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>> Prof. Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]>> >>>>>> http://physics.rutgers.edu/~gershtein >>>>>> (732)445-5500 x1794<tel:%28732%29445-5500%20x1794> >>>>>> W316 Serin Building >>>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>>> 136 Frelinghuysen Rd >>>>>> Rutgers University >>>>>> Piscataway, NJ 08854 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ######################################################################## >>>>>> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the HPS-SOFTWARE list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=HPS-SOFTWARE&A=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the HPS-SOFTWARE list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=HPS-SOFTWARE&A=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>> Prof. Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> http://physics.rutgers.edu/~gershtein >>>>>> (732)445-5500 x1794<tel:%28732%29445-5500%20x1794> >>>>>> W316 Serin Building >>>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>>> 136 Frelinghuysen Rd >>>>>> Rutgers University >>>>>> Piscataway, NJ 08854 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>> Prof. Yuri Gershtein >>>>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> http://physics.rutgers.edu/~gershtein >>>>>> (732)445-5500 x1794 >>>>>> W316 Serin Building >>>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>>> 136 Frelinghuysen Rd >>>>>> Rutgers University >>>>>> Piscataway, NJ 08854 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the HPS-SOFTWARE list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=HPS-SOFTWARE&A=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> ######################################################################## >>>>>> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the HPS-SOFTWARE list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=HPS-SOFTWARE&A=1 >>>>>> <winmail.dat> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------- >>>>> Prof. Yuri Gershtein >>>>> [log in to unmask] >>>>> http://physics.rutgers.edu/~gershtein >>>>> (732)445-5500 x1794 >>>>> W316 Serin Building >>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>> 136 Frelinghuysen Rd >>>>> Rutgers University >>>>> Piscataway, NJ 08854 >> <CMakeCache.txt> > -------------------------- Prof. Yuri Gershtein [log in to unmask] http://physics.rutgers.edu/~gershtein (732)445-5500 x1794 W316 Serin Building Department of Physics and Astronomy 136 Frelinghuysen Rd Rutgers University Piscataway, NJ 08854 ######################################################################## Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list To unsubscribe from the HPS-SOFTWARE list, click the following link: https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=HPS-SOFTWARE&A=1