Hi, Sasha Thanks, the distributions are indeed very similar. Note that the ANL server keeps HERWIG++ ttbar samples, while the Nebraska server keeps MadGraph5+Pythia ttbar samples. But the fast simulation (Delphes3.06) and pileup samples should be the same. cheers, Sergei Sergei Chekanov | WWW : www.hep.anl.gov/chakanau =============== | Email: [log in to unmask] HEP Division, ANL | Tel : +01-630-252 6541 9700 S.Cass,Argonne,IL 60439,USA | Fax : +01-630-252-5782 On 04/29/2013 05:26 PM, Alexandre Khanov wrote: > Hi Meena, > > I produced the plots for those samples as well: > > anl samples: http://hep0.okstate.edu/khanov/snowmass/ttbar/ > unl samples: http://hep0.okstate.edu/khanov/snowmass/ttbar1/ > > there are subtle differences (e.g. a slight shift in HT, including the > no pileup samples), but the PU dependence is pretty much the same for > both samples. > > -- Regards, Sasha > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Meenakshi Narain wrote: > >> Hi Sasha, >> Can you also look at some of the ttbar files at >> http://red-gridftp11.unl.edu/Snowmass/Delphes-3.0.6.1/ >> >> there are 13 and 33 TeV samples, with 0, 50 and 140 Pileup. >> I believe in these samples, the pileup files are different from those >> which >> Sergei used. If would be a good to have feedback. For the 0 and 50 PU, >> the >> ttbar are about a few Million events. 140 PU the stats is much lower. >> >> in addition to ttbar there are also many other background samples. >> >> Regards, >> Meenakshi >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Alexandre Khanov <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Sergei, >> >> thanks, it's working now. I looked at available ttbar samples >> and made some plots: >> >> http://hep0.okstate.edu/khanov/snowmass/ttbar/ >> >> Could you please take a look and see if they make sense to you? >> I'm particularly concered about the MET and HT distributions. >> MET (second column) changes a lot from 0 to 50 to 140 PU. HT >> (third column) is almost the same for 0 and 50 PU but changes >> dramatically from 50 to 140 PU. What particularly worries me is >> that if I just calculate the sum of selected leptons and jets' >> transverse momenta (columns 4,5) I don't see any big PU >> dependence. Is it expected? >> >> -- Regards, Sasha >> >> >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Sergei Chekanov wrote: >> >> >> Hi, Sasha >> >> Today I was copying new Delphes files, this could >> case this glitch. It works now. >> >> Here are recent updates for: >> >> >> https://atlaswww.hep.anl.gov/asc/wikidoc/doku.php?id=snowmass2013:montecarl >> >> o >> >> 1) Corrected truth particles for all top samples >> (now we store all muons, electrons, taus, bosons and >> exotic particles, i.e. Z') >> >> 2) New Pythia8 sample for Higgs+ttbar >> >> 3) Explained how to read Delphes output without >> installing ROOT >> >> best, Sergei >> >> Sergei Chekanov | WWW : >> www.hep.anl.gov/chakanau >> =============== | Email: >> [log in to unmask] >> HEP Division, ANL | Tel : >> +01-630-252 6541 >> 9700 S.Cass,Argonne,IL 60439,USA | Fax : >> +01-630-252-5782 >> >> On 04/28/2013 06:25 PM, Alexandre Khanov wrote: >> Hi Sergei, >> the samples were there this morning but >> now I'm not able to access them: >> >> http://atlaswww1.hep.anl.gov/asc/snowmass2013/delphes36/ttbar/mu0/ >> Not Found >> The requested URL >> /asc/snowmass2013/delphes36/ttbar/mu0/ >> was not found >> on this server. >> Are you moving the samples around or >> there is a problem with the server? >> -- Regards, Sasha >> Sergei Chekanov wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> There are a few MC samples with ttbar >> available for testing: >> https://atlaswww.hep.anl.gov/asc/wikidoc/doku.php?id=snowmass2013:montecarl >> >> o#monte_carlo_samples_using_the_snowmass_detector >> >> (low pT ttbar, high pT ttbar and >> Zprime(3TeV)->ttbar for mu=0,50,140). >> >> The samples were generated using the >> Snowmass Combined LHC detector: >> http://www.snowmass2013.org/tiki-index.php?page=Energy_Frontier_FastSimulat >> >> >> ion#Fast_Simulation_and_Pileup_strategy_-_the_Snowmass_detector >> >> best, Sergei >> >> >> >> >> ######################################################################## >> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >> >> To unsubscribe from the SNOWMASS-TOP list, click the following >> link: >> >> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SNOWMASS-TOP&A=1 >> >> >> >> ######################################################################## Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list To unsubscribe from the SNOWMASS-TOP list, click the following link: https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SNOWMASS-TOP&A=1