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Dear Chip, sorry for all these last minute suggestions, but Kaustubh reminded me about one other point: Slide 20: We concluded in our report that delta MW=1.2 for TLEP, ie 0.6 MeV exp., 0.1 MeV beam energy and 1 MeV theory uncertainty. Cheers, Doreen On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Raymond Brock wrote: > hi EF conveners, > > Now we've had time to actually put things into a talk-like form. > > If you go to http://www.pa.msu.edu/~brock/file_sharing/snowmass2013/ > > Look at the 930pm titled pdf. What you'll notice is a brutal elimination of words into what we hope is the essence of your conclusions. I might include the full complement of conclusions as an appendix. > > o What's not been touched since this afternoon is the physics case slides for the new machines...that requires some thought still to emphasize the important cases. These are meant to be "why" we would build an upgrade or such a facility. > > o I'm teetering back and forth about vacuum instability. > > o Noticed: Slide 18 should say Knew where to look for the Higgs Boson > > So you need to tell me if we've hacked too much, or the wrong things. Again, we're presuming that the audience is not EF colleagues but others who don't do this work every day. > > Finally... > > o I'm thinking of a slide that says the following. You should tell me how you think this might be received. > > A slide that would be horizontal, but would show the following "documentation scale" > > LHC > TDR > > ILC = TDR > > ILC-HL = TDR > > CLIC = CDR > > muon collider < CDR > > TLEP (blank) > > This would make two points. First, I continue to feel tension between the natural conservatism built into projecting with a running, battle-scarred real detector at LHC as compared with a highly tuned, but still proposed detector at ILC. I also clearly am sensitive to the tension between the very sophisticated ILC proposals and the really virtual TLEP ideas. > > What do you think? > > best > Chip and Michael > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Raymond Brock * University Distinguished Professor > Department of Physics and Astronomy > Michigan State University > Biomedical Physical Sciences > 567 WIlson Road, Room 3210 > East Lansing, MI 48824 > sent from: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > cell: (517)927-5447 > MSU office: (517)353-1693/884-5579 > open fax: (517)355-6661 > secure fax: (517)351-0688 > Fermilab office: (630)840-2286 > CERN Office: 32 2-B03 * 76-71756 > > Twitter: @chipbrock > Home: http://www.pa.msu.edu/~brock/ > ISP220: http://www.pa.msu.edu/courses/ISP220/ > ISP213H: http://www.pa.msu.edu/courses/2007spring/ISP213H/ > Facebook: http://msu.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2312233 > > > > > > > > > > ######################################################################## > Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list > > To unsubscribe from the SNOWMASS-EF list, click the following link: > https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SNOWMASS-EF&A=1 > -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Doreen Wackeroth Professor of Physics Department of Physics 239 Fronczak Hall University at Buffalo - The State University of New York Buffalo, NY 14260-1500, USA Phone: (716) 645-5445 Fax: (716) 645-2507 Homepage: http://ubpheno.physics.buffalo.edu/~dow E-mail: [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------- ######################################################################## Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list To unsubscribe from the SNOWMASS-EF list, click the following link: https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SNOWMASS-EF&A=1