> This would make two points. First, I continue to feel tension between the natural conservatism built into projecting
> with a running, battle-scarred real detector at LHC as
> compared with a highly tuned, but still proposed detector at ILC.
> I also clearly am sensitive to the tension between the very sophisticated ILC proposals and
> the really virtual TLEP ideas.

>What do you think?

I think this is reasonable.

Please note that the ILC projections that are based on full simulation with backgrounds using
current event reconstruction are naturally conservative too. The main reason is that the event reconstruction
while quite sophisticated is still at an early stage compared to a running experiment, and this also applies to
the physics analyses based on full reconstruction.

best

Chip and Michael