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Hi Ashutosh,

      I agree it is very impressive. It is the kind of thing I intend to 
work on at LHC 14 TeV.
Hopefully nature is kind enough for the masses to be in the regions 
below the lines!

A central question (especiially for e+e-) is whether facilities can pair 
produce detectable next-to-lightest
supersymmetric particle pairs. For e+e- it is hard to evade sensitivity 
up to the beam energy
and chargino pairs are arguably the most relevant.
Whenever we produced these plots at LEP we had the m_LSP = m_NLSP line 
superimposed,
and the narrow corridor between them at about delta_M =2-3 GeV which was 
not
accessible in the standard searches was obvious to the reader. That is 
not the case in the ATLAS plot.

In general most SUSY talks do not adequately explain the caveats or even 
methods associated with
the various plots. I am not trying to shoot inwards, I am trying to 
understand what are the
reasonable scientific conclusions from the proposed programs. A 
reference to the
study/white paper would also help.

             regards
                 Graham

On 8/5/2013 2:14 PM, Ashutosh Kotwal wrote:
>
>>
>> Slide 50. This seems impressive (electroweakinos at LHC), but without 
>> a full understanding of the caveats / model assumptions /
>> statement that the low delta_M region is not accessible, it can be 
>> extremely misleading.
>> A throw-away naive implication is that LHC has the capability to rule 
>> out charginos to 800 GeV in mass, whereas my
>> interpretation of the plot is that there is no model independent 
>> exclusion of charginos much beyond that
>> achieved at LEP2 feasible from LHC.
>
> Hi Graham
>
> I guess I disagree strongly with you on this
>
> The HL LHC sensitivity is really impressive for electroweakino 
> production. The plot is two dimensional already and shows the validity 
> in terms of LSP mass
>
> There is no experiment that can do everything
>
> It is pointless to argue about what one experiment CANNOT do and what 
> another CAN do in the same  breath UNLESS the conjugate of both is 
> also stated (and that's the beginning of an inward shooting match 
> which is a bad idea)
>
> Ashutosh
>
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