Jim, (et al),
I very much agree with you.
Best,
Paul
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:16 PM, James D. Olsen <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Hi all,****
>
> ** **
>
> On the point about timelines, while concepts like the VLHC are in the ‘far
> future’, what is in the ‘here and now’ is the R&D on the technology that
> will enable that vision. As we heard at Snowmass, much of this know-how
> exists in the USofA, and I think we have an opportunity here to inspire the
> next generation of accelerator and magnet physicists. As Michael points
> out, this is touched upon in the latest draft of the high-level executive
> summary, but I think we could make this point even stronger simply by
> noting the importance and leadership of the US community in this area.****
>
> ** **
>
> Best,****
>
> Jim****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [log in to unmask] [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Yuri Gershtein
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:22 PM
> *To:* Peskin, Michael E.
> *Cc:* Raymond Brock; Jianming Qian; Markus A. Luty; Tom LeCompte;
> snowmass-ef
> *Subject:* Re: [SNOWMASS-EF] VLHC in the snowmass summary****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Michael,****
>
> ** **
>
> I understand the point about the timelines, but I think if we are talking
> about****
>
> "consensus" points, I think it became fairly clear at Snowmass that it's
> almost ****
>
> inconceivable that we can get complete understanding of the higgs / DM /
> EWSB****
>
> without building something like VLHC, and we should state that we
> recognize that ****
>
> such machine is necessary in the future.****
>
> ** **
>
> -y****
>
> ** **
>
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:26 PM, "Peskin, Michael E." <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:****
>
>
>
> ****
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
> I do agree that VLHC received wide interest at Snowmass.
>
> However, it is also important to recognize that the time scales for ILC
> and VLHC are
> very different. On the practical side, no one today is entertaining a
> proposal for a
> 100 TeV pp collider. On the physics side, we are just beginning the
> serious studies
> of the capabilities of a 100 TeV collider. Only a few results were shown
> at Snowmass
> for the 33 TeV machine, and only one, I think, for the 100 TeV machine.
> (There will
> be more 100 TeV results in the final writeups.)
>
> In the summaries, Chip and I put a statement about ILC into the highest
> level
> executive summary. P5 will need to make a statement about ILC, so this
> input, which
> is strictly limited to the physics case and does reflect a consensus at
> Snowmass, is needed.
>
> There is a brief statement about the 100 TeV machine in the latest version
> of the
> Executive Summary, and a longer statement in the 5-page Energy Frontier
> summary.
> These reflect our attitude that the 100 TeV is important, but the issue is
> getting
> ready for a proposal in 2020, not making a decision today.
>
> If you would like it another way, please send some explicit language to
> this group.
> And, please take into account that space in the highest level executive
> summary is
> extremely limited. We can make two points strongly -- which is what we
> tried to do --
> or make many points of which none registers above background.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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> ________________________________________
> From: Jianming Qian [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:24 AM
> To: Yuri Gershtein
> Cc: Markus A. Luty; Raymond Brock; Tom LeCompte; Peskin, Michael E.;
> snowmass-ef
> Subject: Re: [SNOWMASS-EF] Snowmass summary and Phone meeting request
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'd like to echo Markus and Yuri's comments. I think the support for an
> eventual 100 TeV pp collider is very strong, certainly not less strong than
> a Higgs factory.
>
> Cheers, Jianming
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Yuri Gershtein <
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]>>>
> wrote:
>
> On Aug 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, "Markus A. Luty" <[log in to unmask]<
> mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
>
> I believe it is imperative that the high-level Snowmass summary include a
> statement that VLHC also represents an exciting possibility for the next
> step forward.
>
> I strongly agree.
> Even given different timescales for VLHC and ILC, the way Markus phrased
> it is right on.
>
> -y
>
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