I am actually also away. It looks like something in XrdPosix is forcing new connections. I will have a closer look once I am back on Wednesday. Lukasz On 8/26/13 11:46 PM, Lukasz Janyst wrote: > I call it a trick because the only context I have seen it used in is > forcing new physical connections instead of reusing existing ones. > > Lukasz > > On 8/26/13 11:45 PM, Lukasz Janyst wrote: >> Hi Matevz, >> >> Andy's on vacation until 2nd Sep. >> >> Lukasz >> >> On 8/26/13 11:28 PM, Matevz Tadel wrote: >>> Hi Lukasz, Everybody, >>> >>> On 8/24/13 5:55 AM, Lukasz Janyst wrote: >>>> Yes, in fact the username "trick" to trigger the new connections >>>> would still >>>> work with the new client and that's likely what is happening here. >>> >>> Hmmh ... why do you call it a trick? And where are the usernames >>> coming from? This is all running within a single xrootd-proxy >>> process ... so it is always the same user, I don't see how this >>> could change in any way. (On server side and in monitoring, this is >>> obviously a different user, as port number is also combined into it.) >>> >>> Anyway ... this seems a really bad idea for the proxy :) >>> >>> Here is a dump of server/monitoring-side usernames for a bunch of >>> consecutive file-close events. You can see some of them get reused >>> ... but 105 of such connections stayed for 3 days+ (after reading >>> ~300 files with 300 XrdCls in a single process). >>> >>> * 413974 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 415017 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 416011 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 416476 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 417680 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 419305 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 419376 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 419520 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 419599 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 419942 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 420628 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 421065 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 422202 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 422688 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 423059 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 423080 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 424121 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 424264 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 431576 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 488603 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 489027 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 489340 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 494316 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 494699 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> * 496100 * alja.2636:[log in to unmask] * >>> >>>> In fact you can see what is exactly happening if you set the >>>> XRD_LOGLEVEL and >>>> XRD_LOGFILE envvars as described in the xrdcopy man page. >>> >>> Alja will run our test with this on ... but whatever the outcome, >>> these connections should still be closed at some point. >>> >>> Andy, can you please comment on this? [Does anybody know, is Andy >>> away ... or I should kick his chair in a separate email?] >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Matevz >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Lukasz >>>> >>>> On 23.08.2013 21:58, Fabrizio Furano wrote: >>>>> Hi guys, >>>>> >>>>> you are reminding to me a historical thing with this thread. You >>>>> may >>>>> want to doublecheck these two points, and see if the defaults or the >>>>> behavior is appropriate to the behavior of your proxy: >>>>> >>>>> - by choice the connections to the redirectors had a very long TTL, >>>>> one day if I remember correctly >>>>> - at some point, due to some interaction with the sec (don't >>>>> remember >>>>> exactly what by now) the behavior was changed to having one physical >>>>> connection per process per user. Maybe Gerri remembers the >>>>> rationale of >>>>> this better than me. My point is to raise that if one sees many >>>>> phyconns >>>>> from the same process, they could be linked to different user ids. >>>>> Worth >>>>> checking IMHO. >>>>> >>>>> Hope that helps. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Fabrizio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/23/13 9:42 PM, Brian Bockelman wrote: >>>>>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Alja Mrak Tadel >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> normally XrdCl would open one connection per server it >>>>>>>>> contacts. >>>>>>>>> Not per file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, how do we get 105 connections from a single process to the >>>>>>>> meta-manager then? :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI:: The connections listed with netstat are to the origin >>>>>>> xrootd.unl.edu. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> So - we see duplicate connections to the redirector, but no >>>>>> duplicate >>>>>> connections to the data server? >>>>>> >>>>>> Could be a client bug, of course! >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian >>>>>> ######################################################################## >>>>>> >>>>>> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the XROOTD-DEV list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=XROOTD-DEV&A=1 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > ######################################################################## Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list To unsubscribe from the XROOTD-DEV list, click the following link: https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=XROOTD-DEV&A=1