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I've just enabled the monitoring on all the proxy machines. Regards, Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Matevz Tadel [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:29 PM To: Andrew Hanushevsky; Matevz Tadel Cc: xrootd-dev; Lahiff, Andrew (STFC,RAL,PPD) Subject: Re: Stalls at outgoing proxy Thanks Andy, So we have to figure out if this is really the proxy overload or it's the netowrking infrastructure. Andrew, how does this looks at your machine monitoring level? You could also enable summary monitoring on all proxy machines, then we'll also be able to see the actual cpu usage by xrootd and cmsd processes in MonALISA (i only see these hosts now: heplnx229 lcgclsf02 lcgvo03). xrd.report xrootd.t2.ucsd.edu:9931 every 30s all sync Matevz On 06/27/14 10:12, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote: > Hi Matevz, > > OK, then all this probably means is that client a goes after file x and the > proxy is very heavily loaded so it takes a bit of time to actually open the file > at the remote location. While the open is taking place, client b tries to open > the same file. So, client b is delayed until client a finishes opening the file. > Nothing particularly wrong here. > > Andy > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2014, Matevz Tadel wrote: > >> Thanks Andy, >> >> This is actually the standard proxy, RAL was running 4.0.0-rc1 the last time >> we talked about it. >> >> Andrew, have you upgraded to 4.0.0 yet? >> >> Matevz >> >> On 06/27/14 10:01, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote: >>> Hi Matevz, >>> >>> No need to turn on debugging here. This particular stall occurs because a file >>> is being opened and the OFS has found that the file is already open or being >>> opened by another client. So, it tries to piggy-back the new open on that handle >>> to avoid actually doing another physical open. The problem is that the other >>> client has not yet released the handle for use; likely being hung up in the >>> proxy code trying to do the open or perhaps a close. The latter problem I >>> thought was solved by the disk caching proxy by doing the closes in the >>> background to avoid holding on to the handle lock for long periods of time. >>> >>> This is not a fatal problem the client will eventually open the file. The ofs >>> layer uses this as congenstion control when there is a lot of open/close >>> contention for the same file. I suppose you can trace opens and closes to get >>> better feeling of how long this takes: >>> >>> ofs.trace open close >>> >>> Assuming this is a disk caching proxy there may be tracing options for that to >>> see what happens during the open/close sequence. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014, Matevz Tadel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> At RAL, they see the following on their outgoing proxy servers (repeating for >>>> about a minute before the file-open times-out at the application side):<<FNORD >>>> >>>> When our xrootd proxy cluster is busy, there are sometimes messages like this >>>> in the logs: >>>> >>>> 140626 16:53:25 24465 ofs_Stall: Stall 3: File >>>> 2EF5AF84-D65A-E311-AB3F-02163E00A0E1.root is being staged; estimated time to >>>> completion 3 seconds for >>>> /store/mc/Fall13/QCD_Pt-5to10_Tune4C_13TeV_pythia8/GEN-SIM/POSTLS162_V1_castor-v1/10000/2EF5AF84-D65A-E311-AB3F-02163E00A0E1.root >>>> >>>> >>>> 140626 16:53:25 24465 pcms054.6545:147@lcg1353 XrootdProtocol: stalling client >>>> for 3 sec >>>> 140626 16:53:25 24465 pcms054.6545:147@lcg1353 ofs_close: use=0 fn=dummy >>>> >>>> FNORD >>>> >>>> This probably means that the remote file can not be opened for some reason >>>> (like being delayed by external redirector/server)? Would there be a special >>>> error if the socket can not be opened (due to fd or firewall limits ... or >>>> some other internal limits)? Note that this only happens when the proxies are >>>> already under heavy load. >>>> >>>> What options should they set to debug this? >>>> >>>> pss.memcache debug ??? >>>> xrd.trace conn >>>> xrootd.trace redirect >>>> >>>> Matevz >>>> >>>> ######################################################################## >>>> Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the XROOTD-DEV list, click the following link: >>>> https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=XROOTD-DEV&A=1 >>>> >> > > ######################################################################## > Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list > > To unsubscribe from the XROOTD-DEV list, click the following link: > https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=XROOTD-DEV&A=1 -- Scanned by iCritical. ######################################################################## Use REPLY-ALL to reply to list To unsubscribe from the XROOTD-DEV list, click the following link: https://listserv.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=XROOTD-DEV&A=1