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Hi Matevz,

>>   Also not caching (hence just tunnelling) a file that is opened for write would
>> be fine. At the end most of the heavy use cases are just WORM, and whoever
>> enables this is supposed to be aware of the limitations... hopefully.
> 
> Do you need tunneling or is redirection good enough?

 Good question. Tunnelling is the way to go for a totally generic use case.
 To make it really super pwoerful, I'd also welcome if there was a way to
pass the information of XrdSecEntity to Pss, just to foresee some form
of credentials passing that we may design together.

 I believe that the project has enormous potential if we can avoid
workarounds at the client/app side.

Cheers
Fabrizio

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> \m
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>>   Also limiting the prohibition to opens for append/mpodify would be fine I guess.
>>
>> Fabrizio
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>> On 03/02/2018 10:46 AM, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote:
>>> Hi Fabrizio,
>>>
>>> The reason we didn't do it for a disk caching proxy is because cache synchrnization is extremely difficult as you may be reading
>>> as well as writing the file. The memory caching proxy does support reading and writing as synchnizing a memory cache is trivial.
>>> So, even if we did a passthrough option it would be very restrictive (i.e. you can either read the data or write the data but
>>> not both unless the cache is disabled and opening a file for writing would necessarily have to flush the cache for that file).
>>> That we could also do.
>>>
>>> Probably the fastest solution here (at the moment) is to write an ofs plugin wrapper for the caching proxy that checks for write
>>> opens and does the appropriate redirection. We can do that also by extending the static redirect directive to differentiate
>>> between read paths and write paths; thuogh that opens the proxy to cache synchronization issues unless files are not bth read
>>> and written at the same time.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>   On Fri, 2 Mar 2018, Fabrizio Furano wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the hints. My opinion is that a passthrough option would be
>>>> a very big plus for the caching proxy, and I was sincerely surprised
>>>> by this limitation.
>>>>
>>>> For some of our use cases I believe that we will start using it without
>>>> caching, as I can't imagine how to give a transparent service by having
>>>> to force clients to use different paths for reading and writing.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>
>>>> On 03/01/2018 06:09 PM, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote:
>>>>> Correct, we don't support a writable cache because that's not what a cache is all about. Does the origin support writes? If
>>>>> so,
>>>>> we could potentially provide a cache passthrough option. Otherwise, if the readable and writable path differ, he could have
>>>>> run
>>>>> two proxies -- one caching for read access and a passthru proxy for writing then setup a redirect directive in the primary
>>>>> proxy
>>>>> (i.e. the one that will be initially used) to direct writes to the passthru proxy based on path.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Fabrizio Furano wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mihai is trying to setup a small Pss machine that also works as a cache.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For reading it seems to work fine, yet it stubbornly refuses to write files with
>>>>>> this error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 XrdFileCache_Manager: debug Cache::Attach()
>>>>>>> root:[log in to unmask]:1094//eos/xdc/testing/hello.txt?&oss.asize=14&oss.lcl=1 location: <deferred open>
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 ofs_fstat:  fn=/eos/xdc/testing/hello.txt
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 XrootdResponse: 0100 sending 46 data bytes; status=0
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 XrootdProtocol: 0100 req=write dlen=14
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 XrootdProtocol: 0100 fh=0 write 14@0
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 ofs_write: 14@0 fn=/eos/xdc/testing/hello.txt
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 ofs_write: root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 Unable to write /eos/xdc/testing/hello.txt; operation not
>>>>>>> supported
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 XrootdProtocol: 0100 discarding 0 bytes
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 XrootdResponse: 0100 sending err 3005: Unable to write
>>>>>>> /eos/xdc/testing/hello.txt; operation not supported
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 XrootdProtocol: 0100 req=close dlen=0
>>>>>>> 180301 17:27:38 13788 root.3008:20@xdc-test-fst1 ofs_close: use=1 fn=/eos/xdc/testing/hello.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we remove the directive pss.cachelib then writes work instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone give us a clue please ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Fabrizio and Mihai
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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