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Hi George, In the xrootd case, there are two ways of doing native TPC 1) rendezvous token, and 2) delegated x509 credentials. It would appear, based oon the message, a rendezvous token is being used. That token has a limited lifetime. The default is 7 seconds. So, if the copy does not start within this window it will fail with the message you see. You can increase the amount of time using the ofs.tpc directive: https://xrootd.slac.stanford.edu/doc/dev54/ofs_config.htm#_Toc89982392 Frankly, if you are already using x509 the better bet is to use delegated copies which gets around this problem. As for dCache, I don't know but I have copied this email to a dCache person who may know. Andy On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, George Patargias - STFC UKRI wrote: > Hello, > > As a follow up to the previous email, a direct XRootD transfer, from both the XRootD native and the dCache sources, to a local file system using the read envelope pasted below worked fine (and didn't work as expected if the envelope was omitted). > > In addition, TPC from EOS sources to our Ceph cluster also work. > > Best, > > George > > ________________________________ > From: Alastair Dewhurst <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 15 December 2021 12:49 > To: George Patargias - STFC UKRI <[log in to unmask]> > Cc: Byrne, Thomas (STFC,RAL,SC) <[log in to unmask]>; Johnson, Ian (STFC,RAL,SC) <[log in to unmask]>; Packer, Alison (STFC,RAL,SC) <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: XRootD TPC failing from XRootD native and dCache sources (ALICE) > > Hi George > > Would it not be useful to also include the situations where the code works. e.g. give an example of it working fine with EOS? > > Alastair > > On 15 Dec 2021, at 12:02, George Patargias - STFC UKRI <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Hello, > > We are struggling to make XRootD TPC from XRootD native and dCache sources > work for ALICE. The destination, i.e our, SE is running Ceph (xrootd@proxy and > xrootd@ceph) > > For some reason, the auth read envelope (pasted below) is not passed to the SE and > we get the following errors > > In the case of XRootD native source > > Run: [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3005] [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3010] tpc authorization expired (source) > > In the case of dCache source > > Run: [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3005] [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3010] An authorization token is required for this request. (source) > > If you can give us any clues of what is going on that would be great! > > Many thanks, > > George > > **** XRootD Native **** > xrdcp --tpc only --force --posc --nopbar 'root://rd.spacescience.ro:1094//home/aliprod/data/15/44156/4bab4f00-3014-11ec-b8b3-0242ee26aa8b?authz=-----BEGIN SEALED CIPHER----- > fPuOKid+31dD0jT5TOoC2+r+NrdJFDeUSLk+FNRQ3pTAIRtxEzfhISgCwkC0I+276381KvsXa5jP > W4tGSnAzStPhe81RjMmViXtNPIiwEflvJf1+VdAXRzOCreb+vGslFJIw9qNm9s2GmrGI7TDRHqlP > LpY+3y62QzWnNOkJezs= > -----END SEALED CIPHER----- > -----BEGIN SEALED ENVELOPE----- > AAAAgIGJ9r82V1aT5BgzqtU8Hvq2vWFB9zB+qMrowdS0izqNscs0A7bdNCuVohNZB6CglbsjZBQr > IjngdHnvIz5tyN5TzqbnUXAKTOPxHikPZ96hTZgisEE3B0nm0ZQdNN+6duBfJSFmJg5gvx7ongqt > ePNX-yRyc5iWu6dMka6ZLOMu0QPeKW5j9BOISR-RsnkQYnWCLDyDiWzasNp-x5pEjNRg1r+UgKun > fZp0SU924mUmT85ytrAROb80wnsvQYUON9tYAj3zS3bq+qvpiOcIZRDxRklqE0vHzfEmNvAGZPWr > 51Zf5qGyFAwY1N3aSDf7XHm7bFKemn-sZPrf7R9xdWuCjaJEwfqPg9aHSzH9tKZSjOq5AqwfsQem > 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