[log in to unmask]">This is a nice catch! Thanks, to everyone looking into this.
Cheers,Justas
Proxy generated with 1024 key size seems to be mainly OSG problem,
because this size is used by default only by voms-proxy-init2. Those who
rely on voms-proxy-init3 > 3.3.2 (released in October 2020) or arcproxy
>= 6.4.0 (released in November 2019) gets by default 2048 keys.
Be aware there might still be software which "accidentally" generate
proxies with smaller than default size, e.g. FTS < 3.11.0 (latest
version released in September 2021) used fixed key size 1024
(https://its.cern.ch/jira/browse/FTS-1700).
Saying that it would be useful to have more clear error messages.
Petr
On 2/16/22 08:18, Matevz Tadel wrote:
> Andy and I did some deep debugging of where the cert init fails ... and it
> turned out the problem was 1024-bit key of the proxy cert on the client machine
> --- openssl-1.1.1k (which comes with cos-8) apparently requires the key to be at
> least 2048 bits when calling SSL_CTX_use_certificate_file().
>
> After we replaced it with my 2048-bit key cert it worked no problem.
>
> On fedora-34 the default key length generated by voms-proxy-init is already
> 2048, on centos-7.9 it is still 1024. One can get longer keys with -bits option:
> voms-proxy-init -bits 2048 -voms cms
>
> Andy will try to get more informative error messages from openssl ... but this
> doesn't seem entirely trivial as the error gets set at the top-level function
> and we had to go three levels down to see the actual error code that we were
> able to google.
>
> Matevz
>
> On 2/15/22 19:46, Justas Balcas wrote:
>> That is correct, Matevz
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 18:39 Matevz Tadel <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Andy!
>>
>> The error is permanent, I think. Justas, can you please confirm?
>>
>> Matevz
>>
>> On 2/15/22 17:49, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote:
>> > Here are the common problems when the client issues that message:
>> >
>> > 1) The certificate's chain of trust is broken (could be because the root CA
>> > can't be verified, or the root/intermediate certificate has expired). This
>> would
>> > cause sproradic failures (note that if the certificate is improperly installed
>> > then the failure would always occur which is not the case here).
>> >
>> > 2) The certificate must be renewed before the expiry of the certificate to
>> avoid
>> > any conflict arising out of time violation. Ensure that the date/time is set
>> > correctly on your computer since that might be used to assess the validity
>> > period of the SSL certificate of the website. This would cause repated
>> failures
>> > on some sites but not others depending on how close the cert was to expiring.
>> >
>> > 3) The certificate structure is broken, or the certificate's signature
>> can't be
>> > checked. This is the hardest to solve but one reason could me random memory
>> > corruption. I would suggest runningthe client with valgrind and try to
>> match the
>> > valgring log with the invalid cert message.
>> >
>> > 4) Firewall issues may cause problems with they have been enabled for
>> > "encrypted/SSL scanning or checking."
>> >
>> > 5) If tghe server is using only SHA-1 encryption then those cert are
>> flagged as
>> > insecure and need to update their security certificates. However, would most
>> > likely cause permanent errors.
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022, Matevz Tadel wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andy,
>> >>
>> >> What's with the invalid certificate in the client log?
>> >>
>> >> [2022-02-15 09:56:19.549139 -0800][Debug ][XRootDTransport ]
>> >> [transfer-9.ultralight.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__transfer-2D9.ultralight.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=nlq02y75DI9NFCQLEryIqIoDoyClnOqIZlWhu5rJJMc&e=>:1095.0]
>> Sending out kXR_login request, username:
>> >> root, cgi:
>> >> ?xrd.cc=us&xrd.tz
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__xrd.tz&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=-Rc4_LmnigwN9z03K7gZrf-B9w2_b0g2EkivTF0FV9U&e=>=-8&xrd.appname=xrdcp&xrd.info
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__xrd.info&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=j_3eK4Ghw7zsEUpD0XXrLaG5_Maj8wMSMXpXUC-Up5Y&e=>=&xrd.hostname=xrd-cache-3.ultralight.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__xrd-2Dcache-2D3.ultralight.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=PYd32OF7sFBQVcQsXBH9TGn-f4DSZENRYSAySzIRVUE&e=>&xrd.rn=v5.2.0,
>> >> dual-stack: true, private IPv4: false, private IPv6: false
>> >> [2022-02-15 09:56:19.549209 -0800][Debug ][AsyncSock ]
>> >> [transfer-9.ultralight.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__transfer-2D9.ultralight.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=nlq02y75DI9NFCQLEryIqIoDoyClnOqIZlWhu5rJJMc&e=>:1095.0]
>> TLS hand-shake exchange.
>> >>
>> >> ===> HERE:
>> >> [2022-02-15 09:56:19.551762 -0800][Error ][TlsMsg ]
>> [TLS_Context:]
>> >> Unable to create TLS context; invalid certificate.
>> >>
>> >> [2022-02-15 09:56:19.551903 -0800][Error ][AsyncSock ]
>> >> [transfer-9.ultralight.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__transfer-2D9.ultralight.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=nlq02y75DI9NFCQLEryIqIoDoyClnOqIZlWhu5rJJMc&e=>:1095.0]
>> Socket error while handshaking: [FATAL] TLS
>> >> error
>> >> [2022-02-15 09:56:19.551920 -0800][Debug ][AsyncSock ]
>> >> [transfer-9.ultralight.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__transfer-2D9.ultralight.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=nlq02y75DI9NFCQLEryIqIoDoyClnOqIZlWhu5rJJMc&e=>:1095.0]
>> Closing the socket
>> >>
>> >> Can I run in gdb to get more info? What is good place to start poking?
>> >>
>> >> I was assuming it's the server cert that client does not like ... but it does
>> >> look ok to me :)
>> >>
>> >> Matevz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2/15/22 14:04, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote:
>> >>> Hi Bockjoo,
>> >>>
>> >>> Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. While gsi doesn't need to
>> use TLS
>> >>> ztn does. Since the erver doesn't know which protocol the client will
>> eventually
>> >>> settle on, the connection has to use TLS right from the start. That
>> means you
>> >>> cannot use ztn with incapable clients.
>> >>>
>> >>> Andy
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022, Bockjoo Kim wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi Andy,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There are two sec.protocols: gsi and ztn.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Doesn't the interaction go through gsi and if it fails, will it go
>> through ztn?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For incapable clients, the gsi can succeed, no?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bockjoo
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2/15/22 14:52, Andrew Hanushevsky wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi Justas,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If you look into the log you will notice a warning that tells you that TLS
>> >>>>> will always be on regardless of the "capable" setting because
>> authentication
>> >>>>> protocol ztn requires tls. So, this may be the source of the problem,
>> >>>>> certainly it will be for incapable clients.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Andy
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022, Justas Balcas wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Server's/Clients are running > 5.3.X release (not 5.4). I took out 1
>> server
>> >>>>>> from prod and played with full debug mode, on/off tls.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Logs from server/client are available here:
>> >>>>>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__login-2D1.hep.caltech.edu_-7Ejbalcas_tls_&d=DwIDaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=cxGPTdnshuISdao1V4PsW-krXJuMxpk57T8cXetcP32UCNNa9pgqm--1NTcRuVNW&s=tns3GlZokUnAN9f_4ZHOR1kQXE0DrfqOgDK3bos6dS4&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__login-2D1.hep.caltech.edu_-7Ejbalcas_tls_&d=DwIDaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=cxGPTdnshuISdao1V4PsW-krXJuMxpk57T8cXetcP32UCNNa9pgqm--1NTcRuVNW&s=tns3GlZokUnAN9f_4ZHOR1kQXE0DrfqOgDK3bos6dS4&e=>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To turn TLS, I added this config:
>> >>>>>> xrd.tls /etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdcert.pem
>> >>>>>> /etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdkey.pem
>> >>>>>> xrd.tlsca certdir /etc/grid-security/certificates
>> >>>>>> xrootd.tls capable all
>> >>>>>> sec.protocol /usr/lib64 ztn
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And with TLS on - I always get:
>> >>>>>> TLS hand-shake exchange.
>> >>>>>> Socket error while handshaking: [FATAL] TLS error
>> >>>>>> Closing the socket
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If it helps, here is full config:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> all.export /tmp stage
>> >>>>>> frm.xfr.copycmd /bin/cp /dev/null $PFN
>> >>>>>> all.adminpath /var/spool/xrootd
>> >>>>>> all.pidpath /var/run/xrootd
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> # XrootD Security
>> >>>>>> # ---------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> xrootd.seclib /usr/lib64/libXrdSec.so
>> >>>>>> sec.protocol /usr/lib64 gsi -certdir:/etc/grid-security/certificates
>> >>>>>> -cert:/etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdcert.pem
>> >>>>>> -key:/etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdkey.pem -crl:3
>> >>>>>> -authzfun:libXrdLcmaps.so -authzto:900
>> >>>>>> -authzfunparms:lcmapscfg=/etc/xrootd/lcmaps.cfg -gmapopt:10 -gmapto:0
>> >>>>>> acc.authdb /etc/xrootd/auth_file_stageout
>> >>>>>> ofs.authorize
>> >>>>>> macaroons.secretkey /etc/xrootd/macaroon-secret
>> >>>>>> ofs.authlib ++ libXrdMacaroons.so
>> >>>>>> ofs.authlib ++ libXrdAccSciTokens.so
>> >>>>>> # --------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # XrootD Monitoring
>> >>>>>> # --------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # Monitoring for AAA Dashboard :
>> >>>>>> xrd.report 169.228.130.91:9931
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__169.228.130.91-3A9931&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=AW4Xegl5wxbeERkKViynNkyDzu4pC5VhL7QR8sFGF44&e=>
>> every 30s all sync
>> >>>>>> xrootd.monitor all auth flush 30s window 5s fstat 60 lfn ops xfr 5 dest
>> >>>>>> files io info user 169.228.130.91:9930
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__169.228.130.91-3A9930&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=9w5jNESVzo8Kp4KzAUI0Ymeo-wcerH5BqhqE0Rfk6oU&e=>
>> dest fstat info user
>> >>>>>> xrd-mon.osgstorage.org:9930
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__xrd-2Dmon.osgstorage.org-3A9930&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=lMHFksodly_4DGpPCSpc0-Wb9UGjl1_8yif-C2TNQrI&e=>
>> >>>>>> all.sitename T2_US_Caltech
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # Configure redirector/server
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> set xrdr = xrootd-redir-stageout.ultralight.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__xrootd-2Dredir-2Dstageout.ultralight.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=9Kg_R4c2zF6HHZSpAb3h3VrMr_pFJQ260VSKabOPtkulYwNWdPSP-sd5LVhMjPpw&s=HTNBiz85qLXQGkB75MafMeY4xc6vwkMUMuatd5_g0mo&e=>
>> >>>>>> xrd.port 1095
>> >>>>>> all.manager $(xrdr):1213
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> if $(xrdr)
>> >>>>>> # It's role is manager
>> >>>>>> all.role manager
>> >>>>>> # Redirect all lookup calls to original data servers. Redirector
>> does not
>> >>>>>> have visibility of FS
>> >>>>>> cms.dfs lookup distrib mdhold 20m redirect immed
>> >>>>>> else
>> >>>>>> # Role is server
>> >>>>>> all.role server
>> >>>>>> # The known managers (local redirector)
>> >>>>>> all.manager meta $(xrdr):1213
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> # Enable xrootd checksum calculation "on-the-fly" using multiuser plugin
>> >>>>>> # This makes XRootD to write the files with the
>> >>>>>> # ownership of the user that authenticated to the server and not as the
>> >>>>>> # 'xrootd' user
>> >>>>>> ofs.osslib ++ libXrdMultiuser.so
>> >>>>>> # Enable the checksum wrapper
>> >>>>>> ofs.ckslib * libXrdMultiuser.so
>> >>>>>> # Control of checksum
>> >>>>>> xrootd.chksum max 10 adler32
>> >>>>>> multiuser.checksumonwrite on
>> >>>>>> multiuser.umask 0002
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> fi
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # Allow only specific path, checksum config
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # Allow any path to be exported; this is further refined in the authfile.
>> >>>>>> all.export /
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> # Hosts allowed to use this xrootd cluster
>> >>>>>> cms.allow host *
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> # Enable xrootd debugging
>> >>>>>> xrootd.trace emsg login stall redirect
>> >>>>>> cms.trace defer files forward redirect
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> # Disable async. Related issue:
>> >>>>>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_xrootd_xrootd_issues_1113&d=DwIDaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=cxGPTdnshuISdao1V4PsW-krXJuMxpk57T8cXetcP32UCNNa9pgqm--1NTcRuVNW&s=L2XeYWMRRqstD75CgZb1yCHO9dgWL2K6Uqmqto5rx_Q&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_xrootd_xrootd_issues_1113&d=DwIDaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=cxGPTdnshuISdao1V4PsW-krXJuMxpk57T8cXetcP32UCNNa9pgqm--1NTcRuVNW&s=L2XeYWMRRqstD75CgZb1yCHO9dgWL2K6Uqmqto5rx_Q&e=>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> xrootd.async off
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # Integrate with CMS Namespaces
>> >>>>>> # It will see files under /store/...
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> oss.localroot /storage/cms
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # Configure davs/https for TPC
>> >>>>>> # -------------------------------------
>> >>>>>> # Enable https over XrootD
>> >>>>>> if exec xrootd
>> >>>>>> xrd.protocol http:1095 /usr/lib64/libXrdHttp.so
>> >>>>>> http.cadir /etc/grid-security/certificates
>> >>>>>> http.cert /etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdcert.pem
>> >>>>>> http.key /etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdkey.pem
>> >>>>>> http.secxtractor /usr/lib64/libXrdLcmaps.so
>> >>>>>> http.secretkey XXXXXXX
>> >>>>>> # Enable third-party-copy
>> >>>>>> http.exthandler xrdtpc libXrdHttpTPC.so
>> >>>>>> # Pass the bearer token to the Xrootd authorization framework.
>> >>>>>> http.header2cgi Authorization authz
>> >>>>>> http.listingdeny yes
>> >>>>>> http.desthttps yes
>> >>>>>> http.selfhttps2http no
>> >>>>>> http.staticpreload
>> >>>>>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__static_robots.txt&d=DwIDaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=f2PhPg2_OoVvPAKGXfp4WG1YcdhQC9qsy2uMHw3Z_6k&m=cxGPTdnshuISdao1V4PsW-krXJuMxpk57T8cXetcP32UCNNa9pgqm--1NTcRuVNW&s=Laz4x7NvD_fTheDJu5m_cEES6_pePEidCLIAkrYNvPs&e=
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>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> /etc/xrootd/robots.txt
>> >>>>>> http.exthandler xrdmacaroons libXrdMacaroons.so
>> >>>>>> fi
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> xrd.tls /etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdcert.pem
>> >>>>>> /etc/grid-security/xrootd/xrootdkey.pem
>> >>>>>> xrd.tlsca certdir /etc/grid-security/certificates
>> >>>>>> xrootd.tls capable all
>> >>>>>> sec.protocol /usr/lib64 ztn
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> xrootd.trace all
>> >>>>>> xrd.trace all
>> >>>>>> ofs.trace all
>> >>>>>> pfc.trace all
>> >>>>>> cms.trace all
>> >>>>>> # To debug connections to the fedration (5 Dump, 4 Debug, 3 Error, 2
>> >>>>>> Warning, 1 Info)
>> >>>>>> pss.setopt DebugLevel 4
>> >>>>>>
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