I am confused. This *is* the ATLAS/SCCS planning meeting
list. Are you saying that the correct forum is not here?
The ATLAS/SCCS planning meeting has certainly discussed
that a request needed to be made before a web server
would be approved for offsite access. That is still
true.
Gary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:00 PM
> To: Buhrmaster, Gary
> Cc: atlas-sccs-planning-l; sec-group
> Subject: RE: FW: new pending web servers (fwd)
>
> Hi Gary,
> I don't think this is a good venue for such a discussion. It has
> been discussed in the past at the ATLAS SCCS Planning meeting and if
> required should be discussed there again.
>
> regards,
>
> Stephen.
>
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote:
>
> > I think you do not understand my point about the policy.
> > Approval must come *before* putting up the server to
> > be externally visible (you are free to put up web
> > servers that are only visible within SLAC. It is
> > when it is externally visible the policy applies).
> > Do you disagree with my interpretations of the policy
> > statement?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:26 AM
> > > To: Buhrmaster, Gary
> > > Cc: atlas-sccs-planning-l; sec-group
> > > Subject: RE: FW: new pending web servers (fwd)
> > >
> > > Hi Gary,
> > > The request wasn't rejected to my knowledge and is
> > > still listed as
> > > PENDing. This service has been discussed extensively at
> the ATLAS SCCS
> > > Planning meeting. It will be moved to the new machine when I
> > > can log in to
> > > it (again), which will hopefully be soon.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Stephen.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > > The yakut one was rejected (as I recall). It is
> > > > clearly not acceptable to run a service on a public
> > > > machine. In fact if it is running there it is
> > > > explicitly violating a policy from (at least 1997(*))
> > > > authored by Les Cottrell and Tony Johnson documented at
> > > > http://www.slac.stanford.edu/slac/www/policy/security.html
> > > > and should be shutdown. "Getting around" the
> > > > policy is clearly possible, but think it is fair
> > > > to say that people should conform to the policies
> > > > once they are aware of them (even if they do not
> > > > like them).
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > (*) That date predates my even really thinking
> > > > about SLAC as a potential employer. There
> > > > may have been previous drafts before that
> > > > date, but I was not here, so do not have
> > > > the history available to me at this point.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stephen J. Gowdy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:26 AM
> > > > > To: Buhrmaster, Gary
> > > > > Cc: atlas-sccs-planning-l
> > > > > Subject: Re: FW: new pending web servers (fwd)
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Gary,
> > > > > It is there as the last on the list;
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www-internal.slac.stanford.edu/web-server-register/bin
> > > > > /list.asp
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know of anything they have asked to provide that
> > > > > hasn't been, so
> > > > > I'm not sure why it wasn't discussed today.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Note that I do not see an Atlas request in this queue
> > > > > > (this was an issue from this morning meeting).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Requests for approval of new web servers must be submitted
> > > > > > off the page at:
> > > > > https://www-internal.slac.stanford.edu/web-server-register/
> > > > > > I do not know whether Stephen or Chuck is the "stickee"
> > > > > > to make the request.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (And no, I am not actually on the web server registration
> > > > > > committee, so normally I would not get these. Charlotte
> > > > > > was just being helpful.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Charlotte Hee [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:41 PM
> > > > > > > To: Buhrmaster, Gary
> > > > > > > Subject: new pending web servers (fwd)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Gary,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I didn't see your name on the web servers list so I'm
> > > forwarding
> > > > > > > this to you. Please let me know if you do not
> want to receive
> > > > > > > these emails. thanks, Chee
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:34:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > > > From: Charlotte Hee <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > > Subject: new pending web servers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are 6 new web server requests pending.
> Should we meet
> > > > > > > to go over them or start first with email
> discussion? Also,
> > > > > > > any progress on the atb server?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > New requests:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Node Server Primary Admin
> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > www-bis2 windows Jean-Raymond X Pierre
> > > > > > > ganglia01 apache Yemi Adesanya
> > > > > > > ganglia02 apache Yemi Adesanya
> > > > > > > esh4d windows Hope Johnson
> > > > > > > ped windows Dean Zanardeli
> > > > > > > ssrp apache Alan Winston
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks, Chee
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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