Hi Bob,
We are talking about both existing and new users. But only those who need log-in. GRID-only users are not a different breed. Cheers.
Charlie
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Charles C. Young
M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
P.O. Box 20450
Stanford, CA 94309
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cowles, Robert D.
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:41 PM
> To: LeCount, Arla; Young, Charles C.; Moss, Leonard J.
> Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; helpdesk-l
> Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
>
> We're talking about existing SLAC users, right? Not to beat
> this into the ground (OK, yes, I am), but I want to be SURE
> we're talking about the same thing and not talking about
> registering a bunch of new users only for Atlas (unless they
> have a specific need for a shell account at SLAC.
>
> BC
>
> >
> > I tend to favor this approach. If the secondary account request is
> > added in the "Additional instructions or special group
> requirements"
> > section of the account form, things should go through smoothly. If
> > the ATLAS user neglects to add it to the form, the czar can
> to add it
> > before he signs (more often than not, the czar is the one
> who really
> > knows what the person needs).
> > Thanks, Arla
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Young, Charles C.
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 5:31 PM
> > To: Moss, Leonard J.
> > Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l; LeCount,
> > Arla
> > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> >
> > Hi Len,
> >
> > I guess the question is whether adding secondary group is
> truly ATLAS
> > specific or if it's a generally available (if seldom
> utilized) service
> > during account creation. To the extent it's the latter, the
> Help Desk
> > doesn't have to know anything special about ATLAS. They are simply
> > executing a normal request. I hope we don't get into the
> practice of
> > questioning whether a person signing knows what he has
> signed. Cheers.
> >
> > Charlie
> > --
> > Charles C. Young
> > M.S. 43, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center P.O. Box 20450
> Stanford,
> > CA 94309 [log in to unmask] voice (650) 926 2669
> > fax (650) 926 2923
> > CERN GSM +41 76 487 2069
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Moss, Leonard J.
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:35 PM
> > > To: Young, Charles C.
> > > Cc: Boeheim, Charles T.; Yang, Wei;
> atlas-sccs-planning-l; LeCount,
> > > Arla
> > > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> > >
> > > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 at 13:55 [-0700], Young, Charles C. wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is a much better way of doing it. We will keep the account
> > > > creation process fairly generic, and won't be asking the
> > > Help Desk to
> > > > know anything about ATLAS work space, which is what I
> > > wanted to avoid.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe instead of having the czar add the comment, the ATLAS
> > > specific
> > > > instructions can tell the user to do this?
> > >
> > > Well, I think that's leaning back towards asking the Help Desk to
> > > know something special about Atlas procedures. If a new user in,
> > > say, the GLAST group requested membership in some GLAST-related
> > > secondary group I'm not certain our Help Desk people would simply
> > > assume that the czar had really noticed that request, and
> intended
> > > to approve it, when he/she signed the form. That's just
> my opinion,
> > > though. I think this is another issue we should invite
> Arla to comment on.
> > >
>
>
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