Hi Charlie, 
  It should always work at least that for each user after account is created, to send an E-mail to a designated person to ask for granting the access manually. If we ask the account creation process to automatically grant the NFS atlas group priviledge if the new user specified affilication as ATLAS, I believe it saves work and approval waiting time for everyone by eliminating one manual step which everyone has to take anyway. We can still put same note on the SLAC environment page to say that in case you cannot access the work area, send an E-mail to the designated person for which hopefully only a small fraction of people need to go through that. 
Su Dong     

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Young, Charles C. 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:09 PM
> To: Su, Dong; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l
> Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> 
> Hi Su Dong,
> 
> I don't think this should be part of the account creation 
> step itself. Account creation is a generic process handled by 
> the Help Desk. If something is not quite right and the user 
> asks the Help Desk, he is likely to get nowhere. 
> 
> Can we collect this sort of information in a separate page? 
> Stephen put together something a while back. Wei's T2 page 
> can say something like "To customize your account for ATLAS 
> work, see URL". Cheers.
> 
> 					Charlie
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Su, Dong
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:58 AM
> > To: Young, Charles C.; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l
> > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Young, Charles C. 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:33 AM
> > > To: Su, Dong; Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l
> > > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > > Su, Dong
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:44 PM
> > > > To: Yang, Wei; atlas-sccs-planning-l
> > > > Subject: RE: First Draft of the Western Tier 2 web page
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 5) Something beyond the web page to remind ourselves: the
> > > ATLAS user
> > > >    scratch space management probably needs to be worked
> > into account
> > > >    creation automatically.  
> > > 
> > > I am not sure I understand what you are driving at here. Can you 
> > > amplify? Thanks.
> > 
> > Currently we have an advertised NFS work area but 
> accessible through 
> > AFS:
> > /afs/slac/g/atlas/work/ for ATLAS users as a work space, in 
> Stephen's 
> > SLAC environment page, but the access of this requires the 
> NFS atlas 
> > group priviledge. I am suggesting that this access should 
> be coupled 
> > with ATLAS user account creation automatically while we 
> still have to 
> > retrofit some people already have accounts. There could be other 
> > general priviledge issues similar to this which I hope will 
> work out 
> > with a single atlas
> > group priviledge.    
> > 
> > Su Dong
> > 
> > > 
> > > 					Charlie
> > > 
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