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FW: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Building 32bit release on 64bit OS?]]

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"Yang, Wei" <[log in to unmask]>

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25 Jun 2007 20:57:22 -0700Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:57:22 -0700

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So I guess we are safe to run ATLAS 32 bit code on RHEL4 64 bit.

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Wei Yang  |  [log in to unmask]  |  650-926-3338(O) 

-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick Luehring [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:23 AM
To: Ball, Robert; Yang, Wei
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Building 32bit release on 64bit OS?]]

Hi Wei and Bob,

   I got this confirmation that things should be OK on RHEL4 as long as the 32 bit compatibility libraries are installed.

                               Fred

PS Bob if you didn't ask me about RHEL4, then please ignore this email.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Building 32bit release on 64bit OS?]
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:55:42 +0200
From: David Quarrie <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
CC: Frederick Luehring <[log in to unmask]>,        "Atlas.Release"
<[log in to unmask]>
References: <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]>

I see no reason why this shouldn't work. You ask specifically about 32-bit mode, and as long as they have the necessary RPMs to run the kit in this mode, I would have thought that development should have worked as well. There are know problems with 64-bit mode but development should work for that as well (or as badly) as it does at CERN.

	David
On 25 Jun 2007, at 09:31, Grigori Rybkine wrote:

> Hello Fred,
>
> I would help if we understand why this question arose what the issues 
> are.
> The thing is that SLC4/SL4/RHEL4 are basically one and the same OS and 
> as we build releases on SLC4, the situation should be the same on 
> RHEL4. On SLC4 64 bit, we build rleases and kits, but not all the 
> problems have been resolved though. I will leave it to David to 
> comment exactly what the remaining problems are.
>
> Grigori
>
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Frederick Luehring wrote:
>
>> Hi Emil and David,
>>
>>    I was hosting a US ATLAS Tier 1/2/3 meeting last week and a couple 
>> of people asked me specifically about doing package development on a
>> 64 bit
>> machine running RHEL4 (not SLC4) RHEL4 but the issue is whether users 
>> can work locally on development. This came up specifically about the 
>> SLAC Tier 2 and one other site that escapes me now. Can either of you 
>> comment on this? I do understand that there are no promises of 
>> support for random Linux distributions. Thanks greatly for any hint.
>>
>>                               Fred
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Building 32bit release on 64bit OS?
>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:17:09 +0200
>> From: Emil Obreshkov <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>> *** Discussion title: Offline SW Development Discussions
>>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> Let me add - You can find what compatibility RPM you need for that 
>> build and also little more information here
>>
>> https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/Atlas/RPMcompatSLC4
>>
>> HTH,
>> Emil
>>
>> David Quarrie wrote:
>>> *** Discussion title: Offline SW Development Discussions
>>>
>>> Stephen,
>>>
>>> Ah, I misunderstood your question. Yes, you just just to add the "32 
>>> tag. We do that here at CERN, and it should just work (again, 
>>> assuming the necessary 32-bit SLC4RPMs are installed).
>>>
>>>         David
>>> On 13 Jun 2007, at 11:13, Stephen J. Gowdy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> *** Discussion title: Offline SW Development Discussions
>>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>         Sorry, I should have been clearer and I'm guessing it is 
>>>> just adding the value "32" to the tag list after an off-list 
>>>> answer. I'm asking about building against a SLC4 native 32bit build 
>>>> on a machine with a 64bit OS.
>>>>
>>>>                                                 regards,
>>>>
>>>>                                                 Stephen.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, David Quarrie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> *** Discussion title: Offline SW Development Discussions
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> In principle, if the necessary SLC3 compatibility RPMs are 
>>>>> installed, and you go through the normal AtlasLogin setup as you 
>>>>> suggest such that CMTCONFIG is set to i686-slc3-gcc323-opt/dbg 
>>>>> _and_ that gcc in PATH is setup to be gcc 3.2.3 (which should 
>>>>> happen automatically using that setup procedure), then you should 
>>>>> be able to build the complete offline release in that mode on that 
>>>>> platform. However, we've never tried it since we do have some SLC3 
>>>>> machines still available and we've never gotten around to trying 
>>>>> it out. I suspect there might be problems (perhaps with 
>>>>> OpenInventor), but you'd have to try.
>>>>>
>>>>>        David
>>>>> On 13 Jun 2007, at 10:41, Stephen J. Gowdy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *** Discussion title: Offline SW Development Discussions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this something that is easily done (ie with only the normal 
>>>>>> "source cmthome/setup.csh -tag=...") or should we have a 32bit 
>>>>>> RHEL4 machine for building?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen J. Gowdy
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> 33.html
>>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---
>>>>> ---
>>>>> --
>>>>> David R. Quarrie  E25510, PH Division, CERN, 1211 Geneva 23, 
>>>>> Switzerland
>>>>> Email: [log in to unmask] Tel: +41 22 767 1310 Mobile: +41
>>>>> 79 423
>>>>> 5105
>>>>> LBNL, MS 50B-3238, 1 Cyclotron Road, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>    /------------------------------------+-------------------------\
>>>> |Stephen J. Gowdy, SLAC               | CERN     Office: 32-2-A22|
>>>> |http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~gowdy/ | CH-1211 Geneva 23        |
>>>> |http://calendar.yahoo.com/gowdy      | Switzerland              |
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>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>> --
>>> David R. Quarrie  E25510, PH Division, CERN, 1211 Geneva 23, 
>>> Switzerland
>>> Email: [log in to unmask] Tel: +41 22 767 1310 Mobile: +41 79 423
>>> 5105
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>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> Visit this Atlas message (to reply or unsubscribe) at:
>> https://hypernews.cern.ch/HyperNews/Atlas/get/offlineSWDevelopment/
>> 33/1/1/1/1.html
>>
>> -- 
>> Fred Luehring Indiana U. HEP mailto:[log in to unmask]   
>> 1-812-855-1025 IU
>> http://cern.ch/Fred.Luehring mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> 41-22-767-1172 CERN
>>
>>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
David R. Quarrie  E25510, PH Division, CERN, 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland
Email: [log in to unmask] Tel: +41 22 767 1310 Mobile: +41 79 423
5105
LBNL, MS 50B-3238, 1 Cyclotron Road, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA
Email: [log in to unmask] Tel: +1 510 486-4868

--
Fred Luehring Indiana U. HEP mailto:[log in to unmask]  1-812-855-1025 IU http://cern.ch/Fred.Luehring mailto:[log in to unmask] 41-22-767-1172 CERN



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