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Re: jira

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Jacek Becla <[log in to unmask]>

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General discussion for qserv (LSST prototype baseline catalog)

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Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:10:43 -0700

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Daniel

I heard epics are things that take longer than 2-3 weeks, and
stories should be some smaller things: days to ~2-3 weeks long.

We are all still learning, and I am sure we will have more
discussions about it. But I was assured by both Mario and KT
that we should have both stories and epics in qserv.

Please go ahead and add descriptions as you find things
missing or incomplete. *We all* are custodians of this thing,
don't think it is just me :), I'd really like to see the
whole team actively changing things, improving, commenting
on and massaging as needed. Otherwise, it won't work.

Thanks
Jacek




On 03/17/2014 03:19 PM, Wang, Daniel Liwei wrote:
> I think the epics need some description.
> e.g., Qserv refactoring: Modules should have clear responsibilities, and
> each module's interface to other modules should be as narrow and limited
> as is practical.
>
> "Qserv Design week II" sounds like it should be a label or a "story".
> Probably a label. The things we want to treat and cover over the week
> have their own lifetimes, with a specific thing we hope to accomplish
> during qdw2. i.e., For DM-56, the task for qdw2 might be "evaluate
> current css implementation and integration".
>
> I think "epics" are supposed to be something you can describe as well as
> a "story", except that you can't (more or less) guarantee the scope and
> completion time. Hence they often get stories added to them as you learn
> more about them.
>
> http://www.agilemodeling.com/artifacts/userStory.htm
> http://advancedtopicsinscrum.com/glossary-agile-scrum-terms/epic/
> http://scrummethodology.com/scrum-epics/
>
> Thinly veiled behind the jira switch is really a wholesale switch to
> agile in terms of planning, organizing, and executing work. If we're not
> switching, we should ignore epics and stories, no?
>
> -Daniel
>
> On 03/14/2014 09:29 PM, Jacek Becla wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I entered all S14 tasks we earlier discussed through the
>> spreadsheet into jira. (for your reference the spreadsheet
>> is attached with the corresponding jira numbers).
>>
>> It'd be really good if all of you could try to look, just
>> to get familiar with jira. I am happy to carve 15-20 min at
>> the meeting next week to walk you through various things
>> in jira (I am still learning, but I spent many hours in jira
>> by now, so I guess I learned a few things). We will be
>> tracking all S14 things through jira, so there is virtually
>> no way you could avoid using jira in the near future...
>>
>> We still don't have Fabrice's account there, so "his" tasks
>> are temporarily assigned to me, I'll fix that once his
>> account gets created.
>>
>> I took liberty to come up with a few "epics", and now it is
>> time to get your opinion (including K-T's!) if that makes
>> sense... it is basically:
>>     - hackathon
>>     - major refactoring of all qserv code (it is a big one!)
>>     - fully automated testbed
>>     - logging
>>     - configuration
>>
>> some tasks are not assigned to any epic. You can see all
>> that by sorting by issue type, and tweaking which columns
>> are displayed.
>>
>> Many "stories" are still at a high level, we will be adding
>> subtasks covering actual work soon (and assigning many of
>> them to you, as opposed to me :)
>>
>> Feel free to improve, tweak, add missing dependencies etc.
>>
>> Heads up: I am considering using jira in place of our weekly
>> round table report (once you all get used to jira...), and
>> use the time at meetings to focus on design topics/blockers
>> and other things that actually need discussion for real.
>>
>> Jacek
>>
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