Hi George,

In the xrootd case, there are two ways of doing native TPC 1) rendezvous 
token, and 2) delegated x509 credentials. It would appear, based oon the 
message, a rendezvous token is being used. That token has a limited 
lifetime. The default is 7 seconds. So, if the copy does not start within 
this window it will fail with the message you see. You can increase the 
amount of time using the ofs.tpc directive:

https://xrootd.slac.stanford.edu/doc/dev54/ofs_config.htm#_Toc89982392

Frankly, if you are already using x509 the better bet is to use delegated 
copies which gets around this problem.

As for dCache, I don't know but I have copied this email to a dCache 
person who may know.

Andy

On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, George Patargias - STFC UKRI wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As a follow up to the previous email, a direct XRootD transfer, from both the XRootD native and the dCache sources, to a local file system using the read envelope pasted below worked fine (and didn't work as expected if the envelope was omitted).
>
> In addition, TPC from EOS sources to our Ceph cluster also work.
>
> Best,
>
> George
>
> ________________________________
> From: Alastair Dewhurst <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: 15 December 2021 12:49
> To: George Patargias - STFC UKRI <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: Byrne, Thomas (STFC,RAL,SC) <[log in to unmask]>; Johnson, Ian (STFC,RAL,SC) <[log in to unmask]>; Packer, Alison (STFC,RAL,SC) <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: XRootD TPC failing from XRootD native and dCache sources (ALICE)
>
> Hi George
>
> Would it not be useful to also include the situations where the code works.  e.g. give an example of it working fine with EOS?
>
> Alastair
>
> On 15 Dec 2021, at 12:02, George Patargias - STFC UKRI <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We are struggling to make XRootD TPC from XRootD native and dCache sources
> work for ALICE. The destination, i.e our, SE is running Ceph (xrootd@proxy and
> xrootd@ceph)
>
> For some reason, the auth read envelope (pasted below) is not passed to the SE and
> we get the following errors
>
> In the case of XRootD native source
>
> Run: [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3005] [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3010] tpc authorization expired (source)
>
> In the case of dCache source
>
> Run: [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3005] [ERROR] Server responded with an error: [3010] An authorization token is required for this request. (source)
>
> If you can give us any clues of what is going on that would be great!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> George
>
> **** XRootD Native ****
> xrdcp --tpc only --force --posc --nopbar 'root://rd.spacescience.ro:1094//home/aliprod/data/15/44156/4bab4f00-3014-11ec-b8b3-0242ee26aa8b?authz=-----BEGIN SEALED CIPHER-----
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> -----END SEALED CIPHER-----
> -----BEGIN SEALED ENVELOPE-----
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> -----BEGIN SEALED ENVELOPE-----
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> &eos.app=transfer-3rd'
>
> **** dCache ****
>
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> -----END SEALED CIPHER-----
> -----BEGIN SEALED ENVELOPE-----
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> -----BEGIN SEALED ENVELOPE-----
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> &eos.app=transfer-3rd'
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